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good points, Wendy, and you have answered the questions, in my view, fairly and logically. It is true, SCNT or therapeutic cloning nvolves no sperm, a kind of an "immaculate" conception I know fear of cloning is strong with some,even tho all legislation bans reproductive cloning. Altho I don't think we need more people, as the ones here need help, I see nothng wrong with having a delayed identical twin. But think the research to cure disease is much more moral and pressing. One email friend of a year ago said "they're (men) are mad cause we won't need their sorry butts anymore". She is married and just kidding, so don't anybody get bent out of shape. Lets have a little humor here while we wait and wait to argue this out. Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn