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Yes there are thousands of the said scientists who are creationists as there are well other thousands saying that the ETs(extra terrestre) visit or visited the Earth, and others showing that there are ghosts habiting some mysterious castles and mansions around the world, and others trying to locate the Noah's Ark remains in the Ararat.......as well so many of all the thousands of the different world's religions all saying they are the ones with the final truth . Believe it or not.... Best, Joao Carvalho Jeff Bayard wrote: > Today there are thousands of scientists who are creationists and who > repudiate any form of molecules-to-man evolution in their analysis and > use of scientific data. Creation scientists can now be found in > literally every discipline of science, and their numbers are increasing > rapidly. Evolutionists are finding it increasingly difficult to maintain > the fiction that evolution is "science" and creation science is > "religion". When news media personnel and others make such statements > today, they merely reveal their own liberal social philosophies—not > their awareness of scientific facts. > Jeff > > > > > Joao Carvalho wrote: > >> Please allow me to explain that only Darwin concepts is a scientific >> "theory" as the Creationism is a religious belief following the Bible >> words. (In the past such clash of views almost sent Galileo to the >> stakes because he sustained a theory that the Earth was not the center >> of the Universe) >> >> >> Jeff Bayard wrote: >> >>> Both should be taught, although I see Darwin as less valid, >>> but both should be taught a "theories", not fact. Leave it up >>> to the parents to instill their teachings to their own kids. >>> >>> Joao Carvalho wrote: >>> >>>> Of course we are not contrary to robbery, rape or murdering >>>> laws.....but of laws such as there is in one State in USA where it is >>>> forbiden to teach Darwin evolution concepts in the public State >>>> schools >>>> because it is against the Bible(Creationism). >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Joao Carvalho >>>> >>>> >>>> Wendy Siegel wrote: >>>> >>>>> That would be nice, but unfortunately in this debate, if one side >>>>> gets >>>>> it's way, it automatically means that the other side doesn't. Also, >>>>> religions are not necessarily allowed to practice without >>>>> interference. >>>>> For instance, Satanism believes in ritual human sacrifice, but >>>>> that is >>>>> not allowed by law. >>>>> >>>>> Wendy >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joao Carvalho >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:23 AM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Subject: Re: stem cell research/Fink/in vitro clinics >>>>> >>>>> ....if either opinion is equally valid, then none of them, should >>>>> prevail and each one should follow their idea of thruth like >>>>> different >>>>> religions followers (or not) are allowed to practice their beliefs >>>>> freely without the interference of the others. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Joao Carvalho >>>>> >>>>> Wendy Siegel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ...and others would want to impose as a fact that that same bundle >>>>>> does >>>>>> not have the same status as a human being. Neither side has proof of >>>>>> their beliefs, so either opinion is equally valid. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wendy >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The big problem in this issue is that some people , mostly from >>>>>> religious beliefs, want to impose as a fact that a bundle of some >>>>>> still >>>>>> undifferentiated human cells would have the same status of a human >>>>>> being. So these people believe that using these cells would be the >>>>>> same >>>>>> as murdering a human being..... >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Joao Carvalho >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn