Your right, it is frustrating. I couldn't get to the first article, but when I read the second article, I found that it was about BOTH types of stem cells. Only the middle paragraph refers to ESC only. "The identification of stem cells in the fetal and adult mammalian brain has many scientific and clinical consequences. We have evidence for a common stem cell generating the central and peripheral nervous system (CNS + PNS). This cell can be obtained in large numbers and provides an ideal system to analyze the pathways that control fate choice. We are working on contact dependent and soluble signals that control the proliferation and differentiation of stem cells. Similar mechanisms regulate differentiation in fetal and adult stem cells. It is important to determine if stem cells give rise to functional neurons. We have shown that stem cells can generate synaptically active neurons. We have also shown that embryonic stem cells can be manipulated to generate both CNS stem cells and the terminal neuronal/glial fates of the CNS. This opens up an exciting field where we are using the power of genomics and genetics to analyze the development and function of cells in the mouse and human nervous systems. The clinical potential for stem cell technology is increasingly recognized. In our group we have focussed on clinical models of neurodegenerative diseases including Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and demyelinating disease. Work from our group may also have important consequences in other areas of medicine including diabetes, heart disease and cancer." It seems to me that people only hear and see what supports their own point of view. If everyone would try to become aware of both sides and listen to everything, not just what supports their "side", I think that we would be farther along, both in terms of getting along, and in finding a cure. Now, totally unrelated, how many people with PD on this list have had their appendix taken out? Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of nina p. brown Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: "People need a fairy tale." It is frustrating when a quote is picked up out of context and used to suit the purposes of the writer. Numerous editorials have picked up on the quote from Ronald D.G. McKay, a stem-cell researcher at the National Institutes of Health, who was quoted in the Washington Post "People need a fairy tale." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A295 61-2004Jun9.html He was speaking about Alzheimer's not about ESC research in general. If you go to his NIH website http://www.ninds.nih.gov/about_ninds/labs/25.htm you will find the following: "We have also shown that embryonic stem cells can be manipulated to generate both CNS stem cells and the terminal neuronal/glial fates of the CNS. This opens up an exciting field where we are using the power of genomics and genetics to analyze the development and function of cells in the mouse and human nervous systems. The clinical potential for stem cell technology is increasingly recognized. In our group we have focused on clinical models of neurodegenerative diseases including Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and demyelinating disease. Work from our group may also have important consequences in other areas of medicine including diabetes, heart disease and cancer. " Nina "Circumstances determine our lives, but we shape our lives by what we make of our circumstances." Sir John Wheeler Bennett, a British historian ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn