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KF - good arguments and thought-provoking, this is what my mom used to argue and point out. Those cells can possibly live on in the way an organ transplant does and we do know for some organs - like heart, heart-lung, liver SOMEONE HAS TO DIE, Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn