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On 20040906 (Mon) at 1739:38 -0400, Linda J Herman wrote: > This is in reply to Greg Louis' comments : > > The Parkinsn list is not only about sharing information about living > with Parkinson's - it is also about defeating Parkinson's. And > unfortunately the defeat of Parkinson's depends not only on what takes > place in the lab Never did I imply otherwise. > The discussions about politics and ethics on this list help provide us > with information we need as advocates. I doubt it. Most discussion I have seen takes the form of a dialogue des sourds -- preaching by self-proclaimed moralists to those convinced of the opposite, with neither side willing to acknowledge merit on the other. Anyhow, nobody is forcing me to read that stuff, which is what matters, I guess. I will try automatic bit-bucketing of postings to this list with "stem cell" and "moral" in them, and follow my own advice: go elsewhere for political discussions. > I know of another Parkinson's discussion forum whose owner has banned > all postings about politics. Some members' postings have actually been > censored. I am thankful for and proud of our list owners John Cottingham > and Barbara Patterson, for not only allowing and encouraging freedom of > expression on this list, but also taking part in the discussion > themselves. It would have been charitable to name that forum, as I obviously belong there rather than here. You should be aware that I received an approving letter off list from someone who was banned for six months from PARKINSN (that person said) for overly hotly advocating that the list be about PD not morals. I was told that the ban should have expired Aug. 20. Posts were, it seemed, still being censored. The writer impressed me as moderate and articulate. Anyway, the bottom line here is that you believe this list's flamefest about morals to be helpful, and I don't. This discussion is also off topic, so I shall write no more. -- | G r e g L o u i s | gpg public key: 0x400B1AA86D9E3E64 | | http://www.bgl.nu/~glouis | (on my website or any keyserver) | | http://wecanstopspam.org in signatures helps fight junk email. | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn