bob, i would respectfully request that you cease using the word "killed" in reference to a live birth where the couple or couples who have had children from whom they hoped to be able to save their ill child. these are people who had real children and live births and added their new child to their families. in your attempt to sound pleasant and bring your medical knowledge to this group, you offend me terribly when you equate a child born to loving parents to cells in a petri dish. how dare you? maxine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn