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Thank you John for stepping in and ending the ongoing arguments that seem to be nasty at times and only tire some of us out who have to use our delete key. The expressed attitudes are only about opinions and not necessarily facts no matter who expresses them. Yes, it is about hope that all of us need if not for our own selves it is for those whom we love and who need us to continue. Audrey You said, "Eventually in heated debates ugliness will appear. We have encouraged debate of our issues and we feel the polarity that has resulted. Those who harbor hatred will attempt to discourage those who have hope. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. "Four More Years" would perpetuate 'absolute power'. A new administration with a pen stroke could reverse the damage and bring to fruition Hope." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn