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No, Ivan I missed it. When I was first diagnosed with PD a friend of my mother said "at least it's not painful" People just don't understand what we go through because we are not screaming at the top of our lungs. How I wish some of your years with PD could be redistributed to those people so they could understand. Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn