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Edith, Thank you for letting us know the sad news about Joan Hartman's death. Those of us who have been on the list for many years will remember her valuable contributions. I didn't know her well, but could tell that she was very special from her postings. Rest in peace Joan Linda ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn