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Chris, Rants are being aired very publicly in the media in Europe. Much of the world seems to believe that politics does matter, and that if people don't engage in political discussions and voice their disagreements, terrible things can happen. We'll get that in this country soon...within the next four years, I'd say. Kathleen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn