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Hi Ervin:
    i have heard about it. I think they are injecting some stem cells in the
gut lining (?) and claim it cures PD.  Dr. Abe Lieberman doesn't think too
much about it. I must say, i don't now much about it. Please tell me what
you know about it.
    Thanks.
    Raj
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ervin McCarthy <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: UCLA BERKELEY: Adult Stem Cells Triggered To Multiply More
Quickly


> Raj, have you heard about a company named BioMark  who is using stem cell
> therapy?  I am going to give it try.
>
> Ervin McCarthy
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> From: "Brightline" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:17 PM
> Subject: Fw: UCLA BERKELEY: Adult Stem Cells Triggered To Multiply More
> Quickly
>
>
> > I FOUND A LOT OF TYPOS IN MY PREVIOUS VERSION.
> > THIS AN IMPROVED AND CORRECTED VERSION. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
> >
> >
> >  Ray;
> >      This is a very valid question.  I do not think we know much about
> what
> > kills our neurons and why they begin to die on us progressively. (If I
am
> > wrong, somebody please corrrect me). I remember from  my student days
that
> > during the development of the nervous system, most of the neurons that
do
> > not make the right connection entually die during development. From this
> one
> > can deduce that for some unkbnown reason if a few neurons die, this will
> > trigger a domino effect and more will follow suit in due course. By the
> same
> > logic, one can assume that depending on  the extent of the initial
damage
> (a
> > virus or some chemical or an environmental factor), the rate of
progresion
> > of PD may also differ between different individuals.
> >     Don't take my word for it.  Thhis is how I have rationalized the
> > situation.
> >     Our body is one of the most highy evolved in this world and it has
> > regenerative power on such instances and the neuronal stem cells start
> > replacing th dead ones.  However, in PD I am afraid that the rate of
> > neuronal death is outpaced by the rate of their regeneration. (even
daily
> > exercise is supposed to help the neuronal regeneration). That is why, I
> > think, when we take one item that is deficient in PD patients (eg.
reduced
> > glutathione, GT-R, or Phosphatidyl serine, PS,) it soon loses its
> beneficial
> > effect. I assume that during the time this was effective, the disease
has
> > progressed further and therefore, the beneficial effect is lost since we
> > need something else too.  That does not mean we don't need eiher PS or
> > Glutathione.  Since the disease is progressing, we might need something
> else
> > in addition.  Using this logic, I am still taking PS, Glutathione, Co E
> Q10,
> > NaDH etc.  In  all these cases, I saw beneficial effect for the first
two
> or
> > three months, and then the effect was lost. However, I still continue
> taking
> > them and finding something more to add to my arsenal. Then, I found the
> > "Brain Essentials" - a preparation sold by Swanson Nutiritionals. I
still
> > find this useful, but that is not enough. Then, I added a few more
natural
> > biochemicals which have anti-inflammatory, neuroprotective and
> > neuroregenerative effect, with similar results. Finally, I am trying
> > something new now, whose effect has not been lost so far for the past
> three
> > months. I am keeping my fingers crossed.  Shall let you all know if the
> > effect shows promise in the long term. If my logic is correct, the
> > beneficial effect should definitely retard or stop the progresion of PD
on
> a
> > long time basis. I shall talk about this novel approach once I am
> convinced.
> >     I am 71 now turning a new leaf tomorrow which is my birth day.  I
hope
> > my foxy idea will be helpful to everybody, if this
> >  turns out to be a real breakthrough in effectively delaying the
> progression
> > of PD. I shall report on my results in  about three months.
> >      How are you doing now a days?  I see you are still active fighting
> like
> > a tiger for our cause in the forum.
> >      Wish you all the best and my regards.
> >      God bless you!
> >      Raj
> > > *************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Rayilyn Brown <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: UCLA BERKELEY: Adult Stem Cells Triggered To Multiply
More
> > > Quickly
> > >
> > >
> > > > i would think scientists would need to learn about the disease
process
> > > that
> > > > causes cells to die in the first place.  Has anybody dealt with this
> > > aspect of
> > > > the problem?
> > > >
> > > > Dr.  Levesque's patient Dennis Miller had his PD return after a few
> > years
> > > > reprieve from symptoms due to implantation of his own cultivated and
> > > multiplied
> > > > brain cells.
> > > >
> > > > It would seem that only in spinal cord and other injuries would
actual
> > > > replacement of cells work.
> > > > Ray
> > > >
> > >
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