Hi Ervin: i have heard about it. I think they are injecting some stem cells in the gut lining (?) and claim it cures PD. Dr. Abe Lieberman doesn't think too much about it. I must say, i don't now much about it. Please tell me what you know about it. Thanks. Raj ********* ----- Original Message ----- From: Ervin McCarthy <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:10 PM Subject: Re: UCLA BERKELEY: Adult Stem Cells Triggered To Multiply More Quickly > Raj, have you heard about a company named BioMark who is using stem cell > therapy? I am going to give it try. > > Ervin McCarthy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brightline" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:17 PM > Subject: Fw: UCLA BERKELEY: Adult Stem Cells Triggered To Multiply More > Quickly > > > > I FOUND A LOT OF TYPOS IN MY PREVIOUS VERSION. > > THIS AN IMPROVED AND CORRECTED VERSION. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. > > > > > > Ray; > > This is a very valid question. I do not think we know much about > what > > kills our neurons and why they begin to die on us progressively. (If I am > > wrong, somebody please corrrect me). I remember from my student days that > > during the development of the nervous system, most of the neurons that do > > not make the right connection entually die during development. From this > one > > can deduce that for some unkbnown reason if a few neurons die, this will > > trigger a domino effect and more will follow suit in due course. By the > same > > logic, one can assume that depending on the extent of the initial damage > (a > > virus or some chemical or an environmental factor), the rate of progresion > > of PD may also differ between different individuals. > > Don't take my word for it. Thhis is how I have rationalized the > > situation. > > Our body is one of the most highy evolved in this world and it has > > regenerative power on such instances and the neuronal stem cells start > > replacing th dead ones. However, in PD I am afraid that the rate of > > neuronal death is outpaced by the rate of their regeneration. (even daily > > exercise is supposed to help the neuronal regeneration). That is why, I > > think, when we take one item that is deficient in PD patients (eg. reduced > > glutathione, GT-R, or Phosphatidyl serine, PS,) it soon loses its > beneficial > > effect. I assume that during the time this was effective, the disease has > > progressed further and therefore, the beneficial effect is lost since we > > need something else too. That does not mean we don't need eiher PS or > > Glutathione. Since the disease is progressing, we might need something > else > > in addition. Using this logic, I am still taking PS, Glutathione, Co E > Q10, > > NaDH etc. In all these cases, I saw beneficial effect for the first two > or > > three months, and then the effect was lost. However, I still continue > taking > > them and finding something more to add to my arsenal. Then, I found the > > "Brain Essentials" - a preparation sold by Swanson Nutiritionals. I still > > find this useful, but that is not enough. Then, I added a few more natural > > biochemicals which have anti-inflammatory, neuroprotective and > > neuroregenerative effect, with similar results. Finally, I am trying > > something new now, whose effect has not been lost so far for the past > three > > months. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Shall let you all know if the > > effect shows promise in the long term. If my logic is correct, the > > beneficial effect should definitely retard or stop the progresion of PD on > a > > long time basis. I shall talk about this novel approach once I am > convinced. > > I am 71 now turning a new leaf tomorrow which is my birth day. I hope > > my foxy idea will be helpful to everybody, if this > > turns out to be a real breakthrough in effectively delaying the > progression > > of PD. I shall report on my results in about three months. > > How are you doing now a days? I see you are still active fighting > like > > a tiger for our cause in the forum. > > Wish you all the best and my regards. > > God bless you! > > Raj > > > ************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Rayilyn Brown <[log in to unmask]> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:36 PM > > > Subject: Re: UCLA BERKELEY: Adult Stem Cells Triggered To Multiply More > > > Quickly > > > > > > > > > > i would think scientists would need to learn about the disease process > > > that > > > > causes cells to die in the first place. Has anybody dealt with this > > > aspect of > > > > the problem? > > > > > > > > Dr. Levesque's patient Dennis Miller had his PD return after a few > > years > > > > reprieve from symptoms due to implantation of his own cultivated and > > > multiplied > > > > brain cells. > > > > > > > > It would seem that only in spinal cord and other injuries would actual > > > > replacement of cells work. > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn