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Mackenzie, there is also a UN effort led by the US to ban ALL cloning. Diane Wyshak has all the info on this. I understand these federal bans would contain jail terms and up to $1 million fines if you somehow got to another country for help. Of course Medicare would not pay for treatment, it just last year paid for DBS which is very, very expensive. People with incurable diseases are really in a no win situation. Cures would be so much cheaper. So far, the AZ Republic has not printed any of my letters re state Rep Stump's HB2221 to ban state funding of both therapeutic and reproductive cloning. This guy is saying cloning (what kind is unknown) is dangerouas for women. AZ State Rep Gray has bill to ban all cloning period. For some reason the paper does not allow ltrs on this subject,altho I got myself into buried news story about this issue and they have printed 2 of my ltrs on other subjects. They daily print ltrs highly critical of Bush. Next ltr will be "Do stem cells (if they are people)go to heaven?" Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "mackenzie" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Re: federal effort to ban NT > Hi Rayilyn and all, > > > > The most troubling aspect of both the Weldon and Brownback cloning ban > bills is not, to me, the attempt to ban cloning - no surprise there. > > > > The really shocking part about HR 2505 and HR 534 (Weldons') and S 245 > (Brownback's) is that they would make it illegal to import any product > derived from SCNT from anywhere else in the world: > > > > b) IMPORTATION.--It shall be unlawful for any person or entity, public or > private, > > knowingly to import for any purpose an embryo produced by human cloning or > any product > > derived from such embryo. > > > (so say HR 2505 & HR 534; the language of S 245 is a little different but > has the same meaning) > > In other words, anyone who supports these bills would prevent sick people > in this country from getting access to therapies and even cures derived > from SCNT abroad. > > > > And the scary part beyond that is that both HR 2505 in 2001 and HR 534 in > 2003 PASSED THE HOUSE with the above language intact. > > > > Each of them was then placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar under > General Orders, Calendar No. 140 and Calendar No. 23, respectively (I > don't pretend to know what that means) and those are the last recorded > actions I could find. > > > > (the above info comes from http://thomas.loc.gov/) > > > > And scarier still is the fact that 63 democrats voted in favor of HR 2505, > and 42 voted in favor of HR 534. > > > > http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll304.xml > > http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll039.xml > > > > Many of these dems are still in office, so you might be interested to know > whether you are a constituent of any of them - they come from the > following states: > > > > AL, AR, CA, FL, GA, IL, IN, KY, LA, MA, ME, MI, MN, MO, MS, NC, ND, NJ, > NY, OH, OK, OR, PA, TN, TX, VT, WA, WV > > > > Brownback introduced S245 into the Senate on 1/29/03, and as far as I can > tell, it was referred to the Committee on Health, Education, labor and > Pensions and hasn't come out (this info comes from http://thomas.loc.gov/) > > > > Any further info on these bills would be appreciated. > > > > Mackenzie > > > > > > > Rayilyn Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Weldon is introducing the bill in > the House, Brownback the Senate. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn