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I think what happens to you and me and all the embryos and stem cells after we die is useless to discuss, except among friends, with lots of wine, and time to ponder. My take is that there are so many takes, they effectively cancel each other out. I may be sure I'm going to heaven, and someone I know may be equally sure that I'm headed straight the other way. The song goes, "Nobody knows what happens when you die. Believe what you want, it doesn't mean you're right. That is a fact of life." (King Crimson) Here's the rest of my take: you and me, and all the other PWP, and PW all the other diseases that could be helped by new stem-cell technologies, are here now, fighting our way through life. Is this not life that's worthy of respect? All the frozen genetic material in the world only amounts to the *potential* for some of it to become humans. Does the potential for future life negate my right to live, and relegate me to a class of life beneath all those embryos present and future? Enjoy! Rick McGirr Email: [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:49 PM Subject: Mittt Rpmney/Do stem cells go to heaven > Tonight Mormon and former Utah resident and now governor of Mass Mitt Romney was on CNN speaking against embryonic stem cell research. His wife has MS. > > I don't think the LDS church has taken an official stand on this as Sen. Orrin Hatch is a Mormon and he supports it. > > My Mormon cousin's son died a horrible death at 35 from cystic fibrosis (he was in final stages 7 yrs) Carole and I don't speak any more because of this issue. I listened for over 20 yrs with an open mind and loving heart to her zany religious ideas, but she can't return the favor. She believes ESCR or NT is preventing people from being born who are just clamoring to do so. I asked her if she had ever used birth control pills, which has the same purpose, and the conversation was over. I don't understand these people. > > If stem cells are people, will all the embryos that failed to implant during reproduction the old fashioned way or with the assistance of IVF all go to hell since they have not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior? Being frozen a la IVF and not having a brain would seem to preclude this possibility of being saved and going to heaven. > > I'm not trying to offend anyone. Just wish you followers of JC would explain it to me. At least the Mormons are trying to deal with the issue of those people who lived and died before JC was born by tracing geneologies back to Adam and Eve. > > I do appreciate the criticism I have received on this List because I think it has helped me improve my writing. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn