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Rayilynlee: Catholics believe in contraception of time (the rhythm method) but not space. (a condom) Why is this? Thanks Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > thanks, Celeste > > I know Catholics do don't believe in birth control, so it only follows they > would oppose IVF< ESCR, etc. > > I think my Mormon cousin prayed and had a conversation with God to arrive at > her opposition to ESCR and NT. Senator Orrin Hatch probably did the same > but got a different answer from God. When I asked her about using > contraceptives the conversation was over. They do prevent people from being > born and I don't think she had thought about or prayed enough re this issue, > but I don't know since she has stopped speaking to me. > > Maybe an LDS can clarify this. > > Re "what about the souls of people in comas?" Those of you who have had > surgery know that "you" are really gone, not like sleep at all. Where do > you go and come back? Its like turning a computer off. Also, what about > the souls of people with Alzheimer's? > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MyFirstname Mylastname" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:20 AM > Subject: Re: Mittt Rpmney/Do stem cells go to heaven > > > >I can't speak for Mormons, but I think the Catholic belief goes something > > like this - stem cell usage and studying is perfectly fine. EMBROYNIC > > stem > > cell research is not okay because the potential for life is there. Keep > > in mind > > that Catholic doctrine prevents use of fertilization methods like IVF, so > > in > > theory, those cells should not exist. I'm not sure what the justification > > is > > for not using them, though, except that IVF is un-encouraged for > > Catholics. > > Also, as for the idea that cells can't have souls because they can't have > > consciousness, does that mean that a person in a coma does not have a > > soul? Or > > a baby in labor? Or a person who has passed away? Having said that, I > > don't > > think that stem cells in themselves have souls. The point is it is a > > process outside of the natural scheme of things that prevents God's > > natural plan > > from being fully realized. > > As for the thought of stem cells going to hell - again, I can't speak > > for anything but Catholics, and even then, its possible my information > > has > > flaws. However, unborn babies or those born without the ability to make > > the > > choice for themselves are not sent to hell. Its a common misconception > > put in > > place by Dante (who wrote the Inferno). I hope this is helpful. > > Celeste Guerrero > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn