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Yeah, Ned, they should get rid of the rhythm method (I forgot that one) as it may keep people from being born. ----- Original Message ----- Ray From: "Ned Gardner" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > Rayilynlee: > > > > Catholics believe in contraception of time (the rhythm method) but not > space. > > (a condom) Why is this? > > > > Thanks > > Ned > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > >> thanks, Celeste >> >> I know Catholics do don't believe in birth control, so it only follows > they >> would oppose IVF< ESCR, etc. >> >> I think my Mormon cousin prayed and had a conversation with God to arrive > at >> her opposition to ESCR and NT. Senator Orrin Hatch probably did the same >> but got a different answer from God. When I asked her about using >> contraceptives the conversation was over. They do prevent people from > being >> born and I don't think she had thought about or prayed enough re this > issue, >> but I don't know since she has stopped speaking to me. >> >> Maybe an LDS can clarify this. >> >> Re "what about the souls of people in comas?" Those of you who have had >> surgery know that "you" are really gone, not like sleep at all. Where do >> you go and come back? Its like turning a computer off. Also, what about >> the souls of people with Alzheimer's? >> Ray >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MyFirstname Mylastname" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:20 AM >> Subject: Re: Mittt Rpmney/Do stem cells go to heaven >> >> >> >I can't speak for Mormons, but I think the Catholic belief goes >> >something >> > like this - stem cell usage and studying is perfectly fine. EMBROYNIC >> > stem >> > cell research is not okay because the potential for life is there. >> > Keep >> > in mind >> > that Catholic doctrine prevents use of fertilization methods like IVF, > so >> > in >> > theory, those cells should not exist. I'm not sure what the > justification >> > is >> > for not using them, though, except that IVF is un-encouraged for >> > Catholics. >> > Also, as for the idea that cells can't have souls because they can't > have >> > consciousness, does that mean that a person in a coma does not have a >> > soul? Or >> > a baby in labor? Or a person who has passed away? Having said that, >> > I >> > don't >> > think that stem cells in themselves have souls. The point is it is a >> > process outside of the natural scheme of things that prevents God's >> > natural plan >> > from being fully realized. >> > As for the thought of stem cells going to hell - again, I can't > speak >> > for anything but Catholics, and even then, its possible my information >> > has >> > flaws. However, unborn babies or those born without the ability to > make >> > the >> > choice for themselves are not sent to hell. Its a common >> > misconception >> > put in >> > place by Dante (who wrote the Inferno). I hope this is helpful. >> > Celeste Guerrero >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> > mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn