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Ray: I'm not upset - Ned asked for suggestions on how to effectively communicate, and I was providing a suggestion. I agree with you - name-calling on either side is unproductive, and only widens the gap between the two sides, making coming to an agreement almost impossible. My tough skin comes from my experience teaching students with behavior disorders, and my specialization in human behavior. Part of my job is to try to teach people to more effectively communicate, so I can't help but jump in on this one. The way to compromise is through finding common ground, not alienating each other - and as always, that comment is meant for both sides, liberal and conservative. :) Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of rayilynlee Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:37 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "pinheads"/Wendy It works both ways, Wendy, Bill O'Reilly consistently calls liberals "pinheads" but its no reason to get upset. I watch O'Reilly every day, not because I agree with what he says, but because he is entertaining. Guess teaching in the inner city has toughened my skin. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Siegel" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > Ned: > Belonging to a church does not preclude someone from being an > independent self informed thinker. One way to effectively communicate > might be to stop calling names and assuming that you are better or > smarter than they are. By the way, I don't belong to a church, but I do > believe in a higher power. > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:02 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > Peggy: > Please remember when referring to the "church herd" > it could never include an independent self informed thinker such as > your > self. What are your thoughts on how to effectively > communicate with the church herd. > > Ned > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Willocks" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > >> Ned >> >> Please remember when referring to the anti-abortionists as the "church >> herd," that not all of the herd is created equal. I am part of the > church >> herd, but DO NOT agree with the present stand on stem cell usage. And >> regardless of what anybody says, one CAN be pro-life and an advocate > of >> stem >> cells simultaneously. >> >> (See an article done a while back - >> > http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/parkmail1/ > 2003c/msg00091.html ) >> >> Thanks. >> >> Peggy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ned Gardner >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:03 AM >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >> >> >> Rayilynlee: >> >> >> The church herd would rather see aborted material go straight to the >> incinerator rather than used for any stem cell research. You see this >> deprives the woman of any >> >> possibility of feeling that something good can come from >> >> her choice. >> >> >> >> Ned >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:54 PM >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >> >> >>> Dee >>> These same people are also doing other evil things besides opposing > ESCR >>> and >>> NT. I tell you we are entering a terrible period of history. >>> Ray >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:53 AM >>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >>> >>> >>>> Dear Jennifer, >>>> >>>> I share in your frustration. It seems that we are living through an >>>> important chapter in medical and moral history. Later, when this > period >>>> is recorded, >>>> it will likely be compared to past practices and beliefs such as the >>>> Salem >>>> witch hunts and the persecution of people who were labeled heretics >>>> because they >>>> declared that the world is round. >>>> >>>> History shows us that it often takes much effort and bravery to > advance >>>> society forward. Look back at the struggle of individuals who fought > for >>>> the right >>>> of family planning. They faced the wrath of those people and >>>> institutions >>>> who declared it sinful to practice birth control. 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