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AR- Yes, the "piece of information " as to why I believe embryonic SCR is OK and others in the church don't (and I am NOT alone in my church) must be IGNORANCE! (And I am using that word descriptively, not judgmentally.) They simply do not understand that we are NOT crushing up 2nd and 3rd trimester fetuses - that the cells we are talking about using are about the size of a pinhead - and this is in NO WAY comparable to partial birth abortion which has been banned - and they don't realize the destiny of IVF stored embryos or the thousands which don't "take" during the invitro process. Another thing the uneducated "church herd" does not seem to understand is that stem cells (especially autolagous - or from oneself) have been used in research for years, especially in giving cancer patients much needed strangth after chemo and radiation, and SCR will continue to be used in privately-funded institutions. I could go on and on, but I want to suggest that if you have questions about what has occurred historically, what is actually taking place currently, and what advocates are proposing for the future of SCR, visit the Texas site (TAMR http://www.txamr.org/ ). I personally know many of the Christians contributing to that site's information. Although there is enormous potential for adult stem cells, cordblood stem cells, and a multitude of other sources, embryonic cells have more advantages and should not be totally banned. We need strict laws and guidelines for ESCR - and we need to at least TRY some experimentation with ESC and not be so closed-minded. What if penicillin had been banned because it was the ingesting of a "mold" on bread??? Finally, there will never be a universal church or belief - we may worship the same God, but how we believe is extremely diversified. Why then, should we disregard the wishes of 73% of Americans who approve of SCR?? (Harris Poll, 2004) If it's against your belief, DON'T DO IT! We cannot "throw the baby out with the Petri dish!" Respectfully, Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: A R To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:30 AM Subject: Re: Souls in limbo Hi Peggy Its great to hear from you. Do you have any insight into why you believe (embryonic?) stem cell research is OK and others in your church don't? Is there any piece of information that might make a difference to the others? Archie On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:39:35 -0500, Peggy Willocks <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Ned > > Please remember when referring to the anti-abortionists as the "church > herd," that not all of the herd is created equal. I am part of the church > herd, but DO NOT agree with the present stand on stem cell usage. And > regardless of what anybody says, one CAN be pro-life and an advocate of stem > cells simultaneously. > > (See an article done a while back - > http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/parkmail1/2003c/msg00091.html ) > > Thanks. > > Peggy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ned Gardner > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:03 AM > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > Rayilynlee: > > The church herd would rather see aborted material go straight to the > incinerator rather than used for any stem cell research. You see this > deprives the woman of any > > possibility of feeling that something good can come from > > her choice. > > Ned > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:54 PM > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > > Dee > > These same people are also doing other evil things besides opposing ESCR > > and > > NT. I tell you we are entering a terrible period of history. > > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:53 AM > > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > > > > >> Dear Jennifer, > >> > >> I share in your frustration. It seems that we are living through an > >> important chapter in medical and moral history. Later, when this period > >> is recorded, > >> it will likely be compared to past practices and beliefs such as the > >> Salem > >> witch hunts and the persecution of people who were labeled heretics > >> because they > >> declared that the world is round. > >> > >> History shows us that it often takes much effort and bravery to advance > >> society forward. Look back at the struggle of individuals who fought for > >> the right > >> of family planning. They faced the wrath of those people and > >> institutions > >> who declared it sinful to practice birth control. The same people and > >> institutions who today declare it sinful to use cells in a petrii dish to > >> alleviate > >> pain and suffering. > >> > >> Dee > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > >> mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn