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Don: Apparently your intolerance of my opinion will preclude further discussion here. Not wanting to brawl. Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Mckinley" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > Date: 03/15/05 02:07:15 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > Ned: > What is "the wrong turn" is just a matter of opinion, not fact, but I > can see this discussion is leading nowhere, and the problem of finding a > way to come to consensus continues. :( If you would like to continue > this discussion, I think we should take it off the list, but I think it > is a waste of time. > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:28 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > Wendy: > > What would that compromise be? Either we do all that is necessary to > end PD > or we continue being led down the path taking all the wrong turns being > lead by those who's primary symbol they march behind is one of capitol > punishment. ( the cross ) > > Ned > > wendy NED WE NEED TO WORK TO GETER WHO IS RIGHT I DON'T KNOW I BEEN > FIGHTING PD FOR 35 YEARS I DO WHAT IT TAKES TO BEAT IT I DON'T ASK GOD > TO > FIGHT IT FOR ME BUT BELIVE IN GOD GOD I DO NOT UNDER STAND WHAT IS THE > TROUBEL I AASK NO HEL I DO FOR MY SELF BUT AM HEAR TO HELP ANY ONE. THERE > IS > NO ONE ON THE PD LIST I HAVE EVER BAD M MOUTH WE HAVE EMAIL TO FOR THAT > LETS > HELP EACH OTHER SO EMAIL NOT LIST TO COMPLAIN WE ARE TO HELP ONE AND > OTHER > [log in to unmask] Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy Siegel" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > > >> Hi Ned! >> I understand your point, but I don't know if I agree. I am very much > an >> independent thinker, and I find pros and cons to any side. Just > because >> I am not in the church at this time in my life doesn't mean that I > won't >> be in the future. It is just not something I feel I need at this time, >> but who knows what tomorrow will bring? I know people whom I admire > who >> are in the church, and sometimes even independent thinkers need what >> being part of a group can provide. There is strength in numbers, and > if >> we (PWP) could ever compromise and pursue a common goal, just think > what >> could be accomplished! :) >> >> Wendy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner >> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:56 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >> >> Wendy: >> >> Am I correct when say your independent thinking has led you to not > join >> a >> church, and also have the ability of interpreting the intent of my >> thought >> process? >> >> Ned >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wendy Siegel" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:51 AM >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >> >> >>> Ned: >>> Belonging to a church does not preclude someone from being an >>> independent self informed thinker. One way to effectively communicate >>> might be to stop calling names and assuming that you are better or >>> smarter than they are. By the way, I don't belong to a church, but I >> do >>> believe in a higher power. >>> >>> Wendy >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner >>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:02 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >>> >>> Peggy: >>> Please remember when referring to the "church herd" >>> it could never include an independent self informed thinker such as >>> your >>> self. What are your thoughts on how to effectively >>> communicate with the church herd. >>> >>> Ned >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peggy Willocks" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >>> >>> >>>> Ned >>>> >>>> Please remember when referring to the anti-abortionists as the >> "church >>>> herd," that not all of the herd is created equal. I am part of the >>> church >>>> herd, but DO NOT agree with the present stand on stem cell usage. >> And >>>> regardless of what anybody says, one CAN be pro-life and an advocate >>> of >>>> stem >>>> cells simultaneously. >>>> >>>> (See an article done a while back - >>>> >>> >> > http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/parkmail1/ >>> 2003c/msg00091.html ) >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Ned Gardner >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:03 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >>>> >>>> >>>> Rayilynlee: >>>> >>>> >>>> The church herd would rather see aborted material go straight to the >>>> incinerator rather than used for any stem cell research. You see >> this >>>> deprives the woman of any >>>> >>>> possibility of feeling that something good can come from >>>> >>>> her choice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ned >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:54 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dee >>>>> These same people are also doing other evil things besides opposing >>> ESCR >>>>> and >>>>> NT. I tell you we are entering a terrible period of history. >>>>> Ray >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:53 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Jennifer, >>>>>> >>>>>> I share in your frustration. It seems that we are living through >> an >>>>>> important chapter in medical and moral history. Later, when this >>> period >>>>>> is recorded, >>>>>> it will likely be compared to past practices and beliefs such as >> the >>>>>> Salem >>>>>> witch hunts and the persecution of people who were labeled > heretics >>>>>> because they >>>>>> declared that the world is round. >>>>>> >>>>>> History shows us that it often takes much effort and bravery to >>> advance >>>>>> society forward. Look back at the struggle of individuals who >> fought >>> for >>>>>> the right >>>>>> of family planning. They faced the wrath of those people and >>>>>> institutions >>>>>> who declared it sinful to practice birth control. The same people >>> and >>>>>> institutions who today declare it sinful to use cells in a petrii >>> dish >>>>>> to >>>>>> alleviate >>>>>> pain and suffering. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dee >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>>>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>>>> >>>>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn