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Ray:
We agree on this point - "Public ignorance perhaps needs to be addressed
first before we can realize any progress." Education is the key to
WHATEVER the answer is. Most people (again on both sides of the issue)
ARE making their decisions without knowing what is really involved.

The one point I think can't be overcome is the point about when life
begins. I would stop fighting that point though, and put more emphasis
on the point you have made about fertilization clinics and left over
embryos which will be destroyed anyway. I DO find it ridiculous that no
uproar is raised over the "leftover" embryos for purposes of
procreation, which is (in my mind) not as serious an issue as the life
and death issues of PWP, while at the same time there is an uproar over
ESCR. I cannot think of a logical argument against getting some use out
of embryos which will otherwise be destroyed for nothing. Logically,
either both should be illegal, or both should be legal.

Wendy
PS: Surprised? :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Cure for Parkinson's disease in three years:

From time to time I look myself up on the Web and was surprised to find
answers to one of my letters of almost a year ago (these are sites given
me
by Diane) which indicated that an unknown percentage of people think PD
is
just aging and we are trying to defeat death by supporting ESCR.

One guy suggested cryogenics. I can't seem to make the point that it is
THIS
LIFE THAT IS SO HARD TO LIVE and alone too.

  People seem to think you just get sick and die soon. They don't seem
to
understand that some diseases steal your life while you are alive and it
is
not all just old people.
Perhaps this is the common ground we can find between supporters and
non-supporters of ESCR. Unless you have an incurable disease, care for
someone who does, it is almost impossible to understand.

Guy who did my taxes thinks I need to relax more so I can talk and his
wife
has MS which is episodic. and she has had only one episode.

Public ignorance perhaps needs to be addressed first before we can
realize
any progress. The only thing people seem to know is "that actor" MJFox

It is very disheartening as I know people have been trying to raise
public
awareness for years. The well need to walk in our shoes.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "nina p. brown" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:18 AM
Subject: Cure for Parkinson's disease in three years:


>     Cure for Parkinson's disease in three years:
>    [Health News]: London, March 14 :
>   A safe treatment for Parkinson's disease could be available in as
little
> as three years, thanks
> to new research in stem cell therapy.
>
>   Scientists at Scotland's Roslin Institute have managed for the first
> time to culture stem cells -
> which can differentiate themselves into any kind of human cell -
without
> using animal-derived
> products, the daily Scotsman reported.
>
>   Earlier, research had demonstrated that stem cells from pigs could
help
> reverse symptoms of
> Parkinson's disease when implanted in a sufferer's brain.
>
>   However, this carries the risk of the patient developing a deadly
new
> cross-species disease which
> has potentially devastating consequences - for example, vCJD, which is
a
> fatal new condition
> originating in animals.
>
>   Previously, human stem cells - usually derived from embryos,
angering
> the pro-life lobby - have
> been grown in a culture of animal tissue, also risking cross-species
> contamination.
>
>   But Roslin scientists, led by Paul De Sousa, have managed to culture
> stem cells from donated
> embryos - which, in this case, are the "surplus" from fertility
> treatment - in a medium derived from
> human tissue, the first time this has been done in the world.
>
>   They are now looking to create a way of mass-producing stem cells,
as
> millions are required to
> repair damage to the brain.
>
>   De Sousa said he believed that, in three to five years, following
> further research in animals, it
> should be possible to start implanting human stem cells in patients
> affected by Parkinson's disease.
>
>
>   He said: "We are still away - it's one thing to produce the cells.
Now
> myself and other groups
> need to be efficiently producing the types of cells in the culture
dish
> that are useful for
> treatment.
>
>   "We've got to walk before we can run. We're talking another three to
> five years before we could
> be at the point where we have enough pre-clinical animal model data to
> have some confidence in the
> cells we can put into people."
>
>   Producing stem cells without using any animal-derived tissue is a
> crucial step because it
> prevents the possibility of cross-species disease.
>
>   "If stem cells are ever going to be useful for people, we have got
to
> find a way to produce them
> safely and efficiently," De Sousa said.
>
>   "For the most part, the state of the field as it had stood was that
> there was a reliance on
> either animal cells or products from animal tissues.
>
>   "We have isolated four (cell lines) to date and one of these four
has
> been isolated in a
> completely different media - a coating of a human protein, normally
found
> on the outside of cells
> that helps cells stick together.
>
>   "There is no direct exposure to animal cells or to animal
tissue-derived
> products such as serum."
>
>
>   Pro-life groups have condemned the use of embryos to provide stem
cells
> and have claimed adult
> stem cells, such as those found in bone marrow, could be used instead.
>
>   De Sousa said research into the use of adult stem cells - which
would
> mean the patient's own
> tissue could be used, avoiding immune system problems - should
continue.
>
>   However, given the current level of knowledge, he felt embryonic
stem
> cells were more effective.
>
>   Last month, another Roslin scientist, Professor Ian Wilmut, who
created
> Dolly the Sheep, was
> granted a licence to clone human embryos to help further stem cell
> research. It is thought this
> could lead to cures for diabetes, quadriplegia and blindness, as well
as
> Parkinson's and other
> conditions.
>
>   Robert Meadowcroft, head of policy and information at the
Parkinson's
> Disease Society, said the
> work at Roslin would hasten the use of stem cell treatment - either as
a
> cure or a therapy - in
> human patients.
>
>   "This looks like being a very important piece of work that will
> potentially shorten the period of
> time to clinical trials in patients and we very much welcome this
> research," Meadowcroft said.
>
>   Indo-Asian News Service
>
>
>      Nina
>       "Circumstances determine our lives, but we shape
>       our lives by what we make of our circumstances."
>     Sir John Wheeler Bennett, a British historian
>
>
>
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