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Jann:

The religionist, led by the fundamentalist,   believe the bible when it
states "be fruitful
and multiply and subdue the earth."

Also these are the "end times"  when they will all get sucked up to haven.
So why preserve any thing.?  Religion told  the Romans to eat off lead
plates, they lost the
empire in short order, we may be loosing much more.



Ned


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From: "Jann Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: List discussion


> To quote . . . "it's really  too bad we can't  discuss  the  politics of
> stem cell  research on this list.  If not here, where?  This is one issue
> that really affects me personally,, unlike the war, gay marriage, etc."
>
>
> Unfortunately, war, gay marriage . . . it's all related as Bush policy . .
> . reelection was accomplished by making moral issues seem to be in
> jeopardy, the heartland responded by making sure Bush had four more years
> to get Supreme Court justices in place to maintain the Republican agenda.
> Not since the Crusades have religion and politics been so hard to tell
> apart. We can rant and rave about the injustice of not moving forward with
> stem cell research, but somehow, we did not clarify the issues
> sufficiently enough to make a dent in the support Bush received in the
> polls. Huge, gas guzzling SUV's sport "Support the Troops" stickers and
> magnets . . . how much more compartmentalized can the drivers of these
> vehicles get? Is it solely a matter of not being sufficiently informed or
> is an entire populace in denial to the extent they cannot see how the
> indulgences of the present will jeopardize the future of their children,
> the planet, and their well being as retirees?
>
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