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Raj - I agree. My point was, however, that if the husband says that she told him she didn't want to live that way, and the parents continue to fight him, then THEY should pay all the bills. Usually the husband is responsible for the bills, but he is also responsible for being able to say, "Let her go". Nor did I approve of the federal government stepping in. I'm worried that it may start a precedent, and they will step in each time. I do believe, however, as much as I like Bush, that this is all for political gain. I feel everyone should just LET IT BE. Jo Ann On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:34:45 -0330 "R.Rajaraman" <[log in to unmask]> writes: > Hi > I am not worried about the medical bills. I am worried abiout th > life of > the lady that is suffering. She cannot feel, she cannot talk, and > how is her > daily maintenance is going to be achieved without losing her > dignity. The > parents do not display a real affection for her well being and her > individuality. It would appear to me that they are just interested > in doing > everything against her hsuband's wish and nothing else. Although I > do not > understand the whole story behind it, it is not fair for Mr. Bush > or the > congress to exploit the situation for their political advantage, > which if > there is any, is wrongly conceived. > I am wondering if in the right time of her crisis, she were > subjected to > stem cell therapy, she would have been walking by now. Would the > Bush > Government appove of that on the basis of "the culture of life". > Anyway you look at it, the whole thing does not make sense. I > would not > like to spend 15 years of my life in that vegetative state. i am > sure she > also does not want this. > Raj > *********** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: Schaivo case/JoAnn > > > > Ray - I love the way you called God a she. I agree tho' that the > Federal > > Government shouldn't have become involved. I'm sure it is because > the > > President's brother asked him to, because Jeb is the one who > insisted the > > feeding tub be put back in. I still have mixed emotions, and am > looking > > forward to seeing the outcome. Wonder who is going to pay the > > meidcal bills. Jo Ann > > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:08:41 -0700 rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]> > > writes: > > > JoAnn I just don't believe this is the Congress' or my > business. > > > I > > > would not want to live if I was in Terri's condition. There > > > certainly is > > > no hope because research that just might help is being blocked > by > > > this > > > administration Of course, we could let God decide. Remove the > > > feeding tube > > > and see if She wants to perform a miracle or not. > > > Ray Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:57 AM > > > Subject: Re: suicide > > > > > > > > > > Ray - The Shaivo case is one of the most pitiful I've ever > read > > > about. > > > > A few months ago, pictures were shown on TV of her smiling and > > > looking > > > > around, and moving her fingers for "yes or no" answers. I > have > > > mixed > > > > emotions about this myself. My sister had a cardiac arrest > when > > > she was > > > > 18, and was in a coma for 10 months. One day she said, > "Momma", > > > and we > > > > knew she would get better. Today she is a successful real > estate > > > agen, > > > > has had three children since then, and is in physically better > > > shape than > > > > I am. She became a widow two Saturdays ago today, and of > course, > > > is very > > > > depressed, but fortunately, that too, shall pass. However, on > the > > > other > > > > hand, I believe in assisted suicide when the person wanting it > is > > > in > > > > terminal condition, with no other outlet than death. Jo Ann > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:21:02 -0700 rayilynlee > <[log in to unmask]> > > > > writes: > > > >> I think assisted suicide is a reasonable and much needed > > > option. I > > > >> haven't > > > >> read Don's posts because I don't like to download > everything, > > > but > > > >> I don't > > > >> think people should be encouraged to exist no matter what. > I > > > feel > > > >> I am > > > >> just marking time trying to outlive my wonderful dog. I > don't > > > >> see any > > > >> purpose to this kind of existence and no, I don't want an > > > afterlife. > > > >> If > > > >> Spike was in my shape I'd put him down. I don't know why > some > > > >> think its > > > >> not OK for pets to suffer, but OK for people > > > >> > > > >> The Terri Schaivo case is on TV right now and the busybodies > in > > > >> Congress > > > >> are interfering as usual citing their great culture of > "life" > > > Boy > > > >> if > > > >> anyone DESERVED pain and suffering its them. > > > >> > > > >> If you can figure out how to successfully kill yourself > these > > > >> people can't > > > >> hurt you anymore. > > > >> Ray > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> inal Message ----- > > > >> From: "Peggy Willocks" <[log in to unmask]> > > > >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:14 AM > > > >> Subject: Re: HOW CAN I STOP > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Don > > > >> > I realize that everyone approaches problems differently. > For > > > >> example when > > > >> > I was a young child (old enough to think for myself), if I > > > heard a > > > >> noise > > > >> > or thought a "boogieman" was about to come into my room, I > > > would > > > >> turn to > > > >> > face the door or window - wherever this imagined intruder > would > > > >> be. I did > > > >> > not want it sneaking up on me from behind. I feel the same > way > > > >> about > > > >> > Parkinson's. > > > >> > > > > >> > I want to face Parkinson's squarely in the face. If we > don't > > > get > > > >> better > > > >> > treatments I realize that PD may come oout on top, but it > will > > > not > > > >> gain > > > >> > the glory of "winning!" I am such a better person since my > > > >> diagnosis - I > > > >> > know how to prioritize my life. I am not my former career > - I > > > am > > > >> me. > > > >> > Everything has a purpose, and a way out of any situation is > > > always > > > >> > provided. Suicide is not the way. I have been where you > are - > > > >> many of us > > > >> > have whether we admit it or not. If you aren't here (even > in > > > your > > > >> frail > > > >> > condition), how can you help us find better treatments and > > > >> possibly even a > > > >> > cure? > > > >> > > > > >> > We are all in this together - and we need each other! And > W E > > > >> NEED YOU! > > > >> > If you would like to talk more privately, please email me > at > > > >> > [log in to unmask] . Ii won't beat you over the head with > > > religious > > > >> s tuff, > > > >> > but there is some wonderful guidance in the scriptures. > For > > > >> example James > > > >> > 4:14, "You are a mist that appears for a little while and > then > > > >> vanishes." > > > >> > Before we evaporate,, we've got a job to do both for us and > for > > > >> others to > > > >> > stop this suffering from this dreaded disease. 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