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Ray - I helped to start a Unity Church of Christianity in Corpus Christi, where the minister was a wonderful, understanding lady. However, she kept losing her female attendees. She finally went to them one by one, and found out that her husband was almost pushing himself on them. Needless to say, when she confronted him, he admitted to it, and she divorced him. How sad that someone, male or female, has to take advantage of their position. However, when I came back to Houston, I took turns attending the Unity Church in their Golden Pyramid, and C of R.E. in their very simple meeting place. I still believe in the concepts even though I'm now attending another church where I play the piano each Sunday. Maybe these concepts won't cure anyone, but they make one feel better about it. As I told Ned one day, negativity kills. Best to you. You are receiving many nice compliments lately. Jo Ann On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:46 -0700 rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]> writes: > JoAnn > > I have attended the C of RS once in 1960's and again in 1990's > after I > retired from teaching. I studied Science of Mind and think if you > really > believe it you can cure yourself Problem is I can't cure my PD. > The > lecherous nature of the husband of Reverend Nancy helped turn me > off. > > My very good friend from the church, younger than me died of > melanoma. > She was a very spiritual person and just knew the cancer was gone. > > I think if you are well its an interesting religion; however I got > the > feeling if you were sick you needed to stay away for fear of > infecting > others with your wrong thoughts. Rev. Nancy never acknowledged or > answered > my questions in class re cystic fibrosis and Alzheimer's. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: Moral certainty > > > > Rick - Once I attended a seminar conducted by the Church of > Religious > > Science, which explained both factors. The speaker said we are > traveling > > on this spaceship called Earth. I liked his phraseology and have > used it > > often since then in some of my speeches. This particular church > puts out > > a monthly magazine called Science of the Mind, and I've subscribed > to it > > for decades. It's very interesting how Science and Religion work > hand in > > hand. Seeya. Jo Ann > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:44:14 -0500 Rick McGirr > <[log in to unmask]> > > writes: > >> Well... > >> > >> In the times when John's Revelation was written, man had no idea > >> that > >> we are flying thru space on a tiny speck of dust, on the outer > arm > >> of > >> a spiral galaxy, in a universe that has uncounted millions of > >> galaxies. Further, his prediction of a fiery conflagration as > the > >> last chapter of earth's history will only come true if enough of > us > >> believe the story. But if it happens, WWIII on earth will be an > >> indiscernable blip on the energy scope for most of the universe. > >> > >> Science doesn't know much more than John about the end of the > >> universe. We are like travelers who woke up in the middle of a > bus > >> trip to find our bus has busted the guardrail and is airborne. > >> We're > >> trying to figure out what happened. But at least we are not > jumping > >> to conclusions. > >> > >> Is science uncommon? It's becoming moreso in these days of > >> religious > >> fervor. But it shouldn't be. People don't know it, but we all > use > >> the scientific method several times a day. But there's a point > at > >> which people's beliefs get in the way, and the scientific method > is > >> abandoned, in order to avoid the pain of discovery. > >> > >> I think it is wise to have assumptions, rather than set-in-stone > >> beliefs. I try, humbly, to live each day based on the > preponderance > >> of evidence, to put it clumsily. > >> > >> That's a little of what I think. What do you think? > >> > >> Enjoy! > >> Rick McGirr > >> Email: [log in to unmask] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Ned Gardner" <[log in to unmask]> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:46 PM > >> Subject: Re: Moral certainty > >> > >> > >> > Rick: > >> > > >> > What is scientific about common sense? > >> > > >> > By definition it is only common. > >> > > >> > Science and religion do agree that the > >> > end of the "she-bang" will be rather warm. > >> > > >> > What do you think? > >> > > >> > Ned > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Rick McGirr" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:13 PM > >> > Subject: Re: Moral certainty > >> > > >> > > >> > > As a matter of fact, I take great comfort in the fact that my > >> beliefs > >> > > are verifiable, and refutable, through the scientific method > >> (also > >> > > known as common sense). There is nothing truly permanent in > the > >> > > universe, including the whole she-"bang" itself. And that is > >> the > >> true > >> > > source of humility. > >> > > > >> > > Rick > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Ned Gardner" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:59 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: Moral certainty > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Ray: > >> > >> > >> > >> Reasonable doubt; moral certainty > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> When one is "beyond doubt" or an issue has been settled > >> "beyond > >> > > doubt," it > >> > >> means that certainty has been established to such a degree > that > >> > > there can be > >> > >> no question whatsoever of the truth. On almost every > question, > >> the > >> > > only > >> > >> people who claim to be 100% beyond doubt are gods, egotists, > >> and > >> > > fanatics. > >> > >> Mature people generally allow for the possibility, however > >> slim, > >> > > that what > >> > >> they Know for Certain may be disproved. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> REASONABLE DOUBT -- ".refers to the degree of certainty > >> required > >> of > >> > > a juror > >> > >> before he or she can make a legally valid determination of > the > >> guilt > >> > > of a > >> > >> criminal defendant.The term doesn't require that the > evidence > >> be > >> so > >> > > clear > >> > >> that no possibility of error exists; it means that the > evidence > >> must > >> > > be so > >> > >> conclusive that all reasonable doubts are removed from the > mind > >> of > >> > > the > >> > >> ordinary person. See also moral certainty." > >> > >> > >> > >> "MORAL CERTAINTY -- certainty beyond a reasonable doubt; a > >> > > conviction based > >> > >> on persuasive reasons and excluding doubts that a contrary > >> > > conclusion can > >> > >> exit. A juror is said to be morally certain of a fact when > he > >> or > >> she > >> > > would > >> > >> act in reliance upon its truth in matters of greatest > >> importance > >> to > >> > > himself > >> > >> or herself." > >> > >> > >> > >> "REASONABLE MAN (OR PERSON) -- a phrase used to denote a > >> > > hypothetical person > >> > >> who exercises qualities of attention, knowledge, > intelligence > >> and > >> > > judgment > >> > >> that society requires of its members for the protection of > >> their > >> own > >> > >> interests and the interests of others." > >> > >> > >> > >> Ned > >> > >> > >> > >> From http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_ > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:11 PM > >> > >> Subject: Re: Moral certainty > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Moral certainty is the cause of wars, bigotry, > >> intolerance > >> and > >> > > much > >> > >> > suffering. The person who is certain he is right about > as > >> yet > >> > >> > unanswerable questions is a tremendous obstacle to > progress. > >> > > Education > >> > >> > teaches you how much you don't know and defines the > >> > > boundaries of > >> > >> > your > >> > >> > knowledge. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > My education tells me a cell is a cell and there is good > >> reason > >> > > to call > >> > >> > it a cell, not a person. I need to hear some good > reasons > >> why > >> > > a cell > >> > >> > is > >> > >> > a person to change my mind, not ooh don't name-call. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Rayilyn Brown, MA major History. minor Philosophy, UCLA > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> > From: "Ned Gardner" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:25 PM > >> > >> > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> Don: > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. > >> The > >> > > more > >> > >> >> uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows > precisely > >> what > >> > > is > >> > >> >> right > >> > >> >> and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, > has > >> been > >> > > the work > >> > >> >> of > >> > >> >> men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men > >> who > >> > > have > >> > >> >> whooped > >> > >> >> them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized > man > >> is > >> > > always > >> > >> >> skeptical and tolerant. > >> > >> >> -- H. L. Mencken, Minority Report (1956) > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Ned > >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> >> From: "Don Mckinley" <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:32 PM > >> > >> >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > >> > > -- > >> > >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > >> > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> > >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > >> > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >> > > >> > > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > >> mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >> > > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > >> mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn