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More input. >If we allow testing on 3 day old > embryos, then discover that it would be more helpful to do 4 day, then > 5.. where does it stop? No one's babies are being killed here. Possible scenario: A hundred dishes full of human cells (not little babes in swaddling clothes) are donated to the cause by a private citizens, and the lines of cells cloned from them are used to cure countless diseases, and help millions regain their own right to life, the right that everyone is saying is The Most Basic Right. The dishes go on to be given names and made national heroes with their own Monday holiday by the president, who has been cured of PD, CF, MS, and has grown a new leg to replace the one she lost in Gulf War III, some 30 years ago. A few dishes of cells vs. the suffering of millions... >why don't we experiment on prisoners? We could probably find a cure even > faster I do think that going to prison should be more of a deterrent to crime than it is. I wonder what would happen to the gene pool if we used Charles Manson, Chuck Colson, and Martha Stewart for research. If he gets there, Michael Jackson gets an exemption. >don't want to create a market for "farming" embryos The market is not for embryos. Get that straight, everyone. The need is for cells, not babies! > God's will should not be deterred Too open to interpretation. I very much think that the version of God's will touted by the current powers that be should be deterred. If there is a god, she bears little resemblance to this crowd of hypocrites. >when does life begin? We are being told by the Religerants that our lives are over. To resist stem cell research is to discard millions of living people along with the unused genetic material. All you have to do is contract the right disease, and you are put on a level well below your dog, who has more rights and protection under law than do medical waste-products. How can you stand for that? It is 9:30 AM and I am fully coherent. Rick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn