As a co-editor of Inkshed, I can say we would love to have the
presenters submit their work to us!
Roger Graves
Roger Graves,
Associate Professor, English
DePaul University, Chicago
773-325-1786
http://condor.depaul.edu/~rgraves/
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Hi Julie-Ann,
I am the coordinator at Dalhousie. We try and treat all students the
same, but the ESL students are much more difficult to deal with. The
university is accepting more. The students are in some cases cheating on
language tests to get in. They come from traditions that either tolerate
or
encourage the uncited use of material. All and all the tutors find them
a
challenge. While they are lovely people, they want editing. One student
told
me that she sends her work to a service in Australia to have it
polished. As
a prof I don't know where to send the marks sometimes. Anyway, to answer
your questions:
1. There aren't any policies; however, in practice we have had to limit
the
number of sessions for ESL students (they would be in twice a day and we
have only eight tutors for 16,000 students), and we consciously make
them
take responsibility for their work. Sometimes that leads to
confrontations,
but that's life.
2. When working with ESL students we certainly spend more time on
grammar,
but we try to comment on general trends (verb tense, articles, etc.),
send
them away to work on them and then ask them to return with an attempt.
We
try to concentrate on organization, etc.
I hope that this helps. I can't make it to Inkshed. Will the
talks/papers be put online?
Margie Clow Bohan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie-Ann Stodolny" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: two questions
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was just wondering if any of you who work in Writing
> Centres would mind answering the two questions below.
> I just want a bit of input so I can tailor our Inkshed
> presentation a bit more (although some answers would be
> appreciated even if you're not attending Inkshed).
>
> Thank you,
> Julie-Ann
>
> 1. Does your writing centre have a different policy for
> sessions with ESL students? By policies we mean
> areas/elements of writing that tutors focus on, ways of
> dealing with students, or any other "official" (or
> semi-official) policies. If your answer is yes, what
> are these differences?
>
> 2. While most writing centres have policies of not
> editing students' work, do tutors in your centre tend
> to do more borderline grammatical work when working
> with ESL students (whether by consciously or
> unconsciously going against policy)? We are not trying
> to find out about stated aims here; rather, we would
> like to know, in reality, how ESL tutoring sessions
> progress.
>
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