Hi Ray:
I don't see that there anything we can do except keep talking about it
and raise the awareness of the facts. Also we should talk to our poliicians
too as often as we can to keep them informed of the facts. It usually takes
a few most precious years before the rest of the world will catch up on the
reality and irrationality of these concepts.
What I cannot understand is that in the name of religion, the Government
will go all the way to stop this important aspect of scientific research
from advancing in any other counrty. Who gave the right to these people to
determine the fate of humanity at large?
Raj
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----- Original Message -----
From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: Culture of Life/Raj
> Raj, I wouldn't have thought that research on cells would bother anybody,
> but I see it as an attempt to push personhood back so far that overturning
> Roe vs.. Wade would be a cinch.
>
> Because of this manufactured controversy we've lost four years of
research.
> It is very disheartening.
> The Schiavo circus makes me wonder what is next.
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R.Rajaraman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Culture of Life
>
>
> > Ray:
> > I was wondering about the same thing too. In the name of "culture of
> > life", people are willing to pay $ 250,00 to murder somebody for their
> > principles (if you can call it that). I am worried that religious
fanatics
> > are running rampent and the politicians with selfish motives are dancing
> > for
> > their tunes. They will not allow stem cell research that will contribute
> > to
> > the benefit of humanity, including themselves. I don't see any
compassion
> > or
> > rationality in their arguments. They talk as if they are protecting God
> > and
> > his/her ways!
> > What happened to the silent majority?
> > Raj
> > ********
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Culture of Life
> >
> >
> >> Yeah, "Culture of Life" is really a misnomer It means opposing
research
> > on
> >> living cells and keeping brain dead people "alive" or whatever the
> > religious
> >> community wants it to mean.. There is no help for quality of life of
> > those
> >> "living" it gets my dander up too. Just heard Bush on TV invoking it
> >> again. To think he and his disciples will decide my fate! It's too
much
> > to
> >> bear.
> >> Ray
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:47 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Culture of Life
> >>
> >>
> >> > hey - Rick! You should see some of the things I've written in the
> >> > past.
> >> > In fact, I got in trouble with my owners for my remarks. Anyway, no
> >> > offense taken. Each of us have to believe what is best for us. It
> >> > just
> >> > so happens I BELIEVE.
> >> > Jo Ann
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:23:49 -0500 Rick McGirr
> >> > <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > writes:
> >> >> First, apologies to Delores Buente (Dee). My response was in no way
> >> >> directed at your beliefs or you personally. Yes, Jo Ann, once in a
> >> >> while I'll let one slip. I do have strong feelings regarding the
> >> >> way
> >> >> organized religion is used by the powerful to support and justify
> >> >> their plans, which often are anathema to the teachings of the
> >> >> principle figures of the faith. Jesus, as an example, left us with
> >> >> some excellent wisdom and words. But I fail to see how the
> >> >> teachings
> >> >> of Jesus have anything to do with anything our illustrious leader
> >> >> (US)
> >> >> says or does. I do try hard every day to love and tolerate those
> >> >> who
> >> >> do not agree with me. Lots of people don't, but it's all I hope
> >> >> for;
> >> >> to be given a fair hearing.
> >> >>
> >> >> The subject line of this message alone is enough to get my dander
> >> >> up,
> >> >> if I allow myself to dwell on it. If you feel offended, I
> >> >> apologize.
> >> >> I have no feelings of animosity toward you, even in light of all
> >> >> that
> >> >> we may or may not agree on. If you look at my comment under the
> >> >> heading of "institutional hypocrisy", it may explain the unfriendly
> >> >> tone.
> >> >>
> >> >> And all this, right after I had made an attempt at peacemaking.
> >> >>
> >> >> I proudly embrace my shortcomings. They are my inspiration to keep
> >> >> learning.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best wishes,
> >> >> Rick
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:17 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Culture of Life
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Rick - That was pretty strong. I'm surprised. Jo Ann
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:49:15 -0500 Rick McGirr
> >> >> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > writes:
> >> >> > > Yes, it means all that, and we'll all be sitting pretty in our
> >> >> plaid
> >> >> > > jumpers, and our white shirts and ties, lined up in our pews in
> >> >> > > alphabetical order, with our hands folded, waiting for the lord,
> >> >> who
> >> >> > > must have some kind of direct lineage to the Bush family, to
> >> >> summon
> >> >> > > us
> >> >> > > home.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Rick
> >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > > From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:30 PM
> >> >> > > Subject: Culture of Life
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > The "Pro-Life/Culture of Life" philosophy that this
> >> >> administration
> >> >> > > is
> >> >> > > > embracing proclaims that all life is sacred and needs to be
> >> >> > > protected. This is
> >> >> > > > becoming very confusing to me. Now that our government has
> >> >> deemed
> >> >> > > fit to intervene
> >> >> > > > into Terri Schiavo's outcome, does that mean that Congress
> >> >> will
> >> >> > > now
> >> >> > > mandate
> >> >> > > > all end-of-life decisions for us? Does that mean that the
> >> >> death
> >> >> > > penalty will
> >> >> > > > be struck down? Does that mean that the United States will
> >> >> never
> >> >> > > again go to
> >> >> > > > war? Does that mean that there will be no more In-vitro
> >> >> > > fertilization
> >> >> > > > clinics? Does that mean that embryonic stem cell research is
> >> >> to
> >> >> > > be
> >> >> > > banned?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Dee
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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