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Raj, I wouldn't have thought that research on cells would bother anybody, but I see it as an attempt to push personhood back so far that overturning Roe vs.. Wade would be a cinch. Because of this manufactured controversy we've lost four years of research. It is very disheartening. The Schiavo circus makes me wonder what is next. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.Rajaraman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Culture of Life > Ray: > I was wondering about the same thing too. In the name of "culture of > life", people are willing to pay $ 250,00 to murder somebody for their > principles (if you can call it that). I am worried that religious fanatics > are running rampent and the politicians with selfish motives are dancing > for > their tunes. They will not allow stem cell research that will contribute > to > the benefit of humanity, including themselves. I don't see any compassion > or > rationality in their arguments. They talk as if they are protecting God > and > his/her ways! > What happened to the silent majority? > Raj > ******** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: Culture of Life > > >> Yeah, "Culture of Life" is really a misnomer It means opposing research > on >> living cells and keeping brain dead people "alive" or whatever the > religious >> community wants it to mean.. There is no help for quality of life of > those >> "living" it gets my dander up too. Just heard Bush on TV invoking it >> again. To think he and his disciples will decide my fate! It's too much > to >> bear. >> Ray >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:47 AM >> Subject: Re: Culture of Life >> >> >> > hey - Rick! You should see some of the things I've written in the >> > past. >> > In fact, I got in trouble with my owners for my remarks. Anyway, no >> > offense taken. Each of us have to believe what is best for us. It >> > just >> > so happens I BELIEVE. >> > Jo Ann >> > >> > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:23:49 -0500 Rick McGirr >> > <[log in to unmask]> >> > writes: >> >> First, apologies to Delores Buente (Dee). My response was in no way >> >> directed at your beliefs or you personally. Yes, Jo Ann, once in a >> >> while I'll let one slip. I do have strong feelings regarding the >> >> way >> >> organized religion is used by the powerful to support and justify >> >> their plans, which often are anathema to the teachings of the >> >> principle figures of the faith. Jesus, as an example, left us with >> >> some excellent wisdom and words. But I fail to see how the >> >> teachings >> >> of Jesus have anything to do with anything our illustrious leader >> >> (US) >> >> says or does. I do try hard every day to love and tolerate those >> >> who >> >> do not agree with me. Lots of people don't, but it's all I hope >> >> for; >> >> to be given a fair hearing. >> >> >> >> The subject line of this message alone is enough to get my dander >> >> up, >> >> if I allow myself to dwell on it. If you feel offended, I >> >> apologize. >> >> I have no feelings of animosity toward you, even in light of all >> >> that >> >> we may or may not agree on. If you look at my comment under the >> >> heading of "institutional hypocrisy", it may explain the unfriendly >> >> tone. >> >> >> >> And all this, right after I had made an attempt at peacemaking. >> >> >> >> I proudly embrace my shortcomings. They are my inspiration to keep >> >> learning. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:17 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Culture of Life >> >> >> >> >> >> > Rick - That was pretty strong. I'm surprised. Jo Ann >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:49:15 -0500 Rick McGirr >> >> <[log in to unmask]> >> >> > writes: >> >> > > Yes, it means all that, and we'll all be sitting pretty in our >> >> plaid >> >> > > jumpers, and our white shirts and ties, lined up in our pews in >> >> > > alphabetical order, with our hands folded, waiting for the lord, >> >> who >> >> > > must have some kind of direct lineage to the Bush family, to >> >> summon >> >> > > us >> >> > > home. >> >> > > >> >> > > Rick >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > > From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]> >> >> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:30 PM >> >> > > Subject: Culture of Life >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > The "Pro-Life/Culture of Life" philosophy that this >> >> administration >> >> > > is >> >> > > > embracing proclaims that all life is sacred and needs to be >> >> > > protected. This is >> >> > > > becoming very confusing to me. Now that our government has >> >> deemed >> >> > > fit to intervene >> >> > > > into Terri Schiavo's outcome, does that mean that Congress >> >> will >> >> > > now >> >> > > mandate >> >> > > > all end-of-life decisions for us? Does that mean that the >> >> death >> >> > > penalty will >> >> > > > be struck down? Does that mean that the United States will >> >> never >> >> > > again go to >> >> > > > war? Does that mean that there will be no more In-vitro >> >> > > fertilization >> >> > > > clinics? Does that mean that embryonic stem cell research is >> >> to >> >> > > be >> >> > > banned? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Dee >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > -- >> >> > > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> >> > > mailto:[log in to unmask] >> >> > > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -- >> >> > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> >> > > mailto:[log in to unmask] >> >> > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -- >> >> > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> >> > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> > mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn