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Ned - Faith is believing in things unseen. JoAnn On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:32:25 -0500 Ned Gardner <[log in to unmask]> writes: > Rayilynlee: > Trying to justify suffering on religious grounds may work for those > who > are not suffering, but trying to bring > "religious logic" to the suffering is truly cruel. No religious > control mumbo jumbo can justify an illogical situation when it is > itself illogical. > > Faith is believing something you know is not true. > > > I think Rayilynlee is to much the lady to tell you what she really > thinks of this nonsence. > > > Ned > > > > > > > wrote: > > > Re the medieval view of suffering > > I do think suffering can change you for the better, but enough is > enough. > > Everybody should have some and recover. > > > > My bouts with arterio-venous fistulas and ovarian cancer > "ennobled" > > me, but > > not PD. It has destroyed any faith I ever had in a loving God. I > > just fail > > to understand the purpose. and especially children with cystic > fibrosis. > > What is the purpose of children having their lives destroyed or > cut > > short? I > > don't think any religion can provide a satisfactory answer to > that. > > > > The Pope,after all did have a "life" before PD, albeit a difficult > one > > losing his mother, brother and father as a child and teenager. > Just > > saw a > > great and moving bio on him on PBS last night. > > > > I remember when I was in Poland in the early 1980's there were > crosses of > > flowers everywhere, the Catholic Church really was the vehicle of > protest > > against Communism. Also, there were photos of fetuses in the > churches. > > > > The tragic history of Poland helps you understand this pope. > > Ray > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn