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Raj, Are they totally the same? Do I have this straight: You say that curcumin is an active ingredient in tumeric, the spice that we can get at the grocery store, but you are able to get tumeric in tablet form, and you take 1 400-mg tablet per day of turmeric, not curcumin. Curcumin, per say, is not available? Sorry, but I just got started on this thread. Thanks, Charlotte Mancuso --- Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 00:01:55 -0400 > From: Automatic digest processor > <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: PARKINSN Digest - 7 Apr 2005 (#2005-144) > To: Recipients of PARKINSN digests > <[log in to unmask]> > > There is one message totalling 291 lines in this > issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Curcumin inhibits neuronal cell death > > Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:11:08 -0500 > From: Beverly Forte <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Curcumin inhibits neuronal cell death > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R.Rajaraman" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:59 AM > Subject: Re: Curcumin inhibits neuronal cell death > > > > Both are the same! > > Raj > > ********** > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nick & Oanh" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:28 AM > > Subject: Re: Curcumin inhibits neuronal cell > death > > > > > >> Raj, > >> > >> Thanks for the very detailed reply. > >> Curious - why do you take Tumeric in stead of > Curcumin? > >> > >> Nick > >> > >> R.Rajaraman wrote: > >> > >> >WARNING: > >> > I AM TAKING A CALCULATED RISK IN > PRESCIBING MY OWN MEDICATION. > I > > DO > >> >THIS AFTER A THOROUGH LITERATURE SURVEY. > >> > I AM SHARING MY EXPERIENCE. I AM NOT > QUALIFIED TO GIVE ANY > ADVICE > > TO > >> >ANYBODY. WHAT WORKS FOR ME MAY NOT WORK FOR > EVERYBODY. DO CONSULT A > >> >QUALIFIED INDIVIDUL BEFORE YOU CHANGE ANYTHING > THAT YOU ARE DOING > > CURRENTLY. > >> > > >> >Hi Nick & Oanh: > >> > Anybody who knows about the action of > sinamet, will opt to stay > out > > of > >> >it as long as possible. That was and is my > whole aim even today. It is > >> >unfortunate that no new and useful medication > has been invented for > the > > past > >> >several decades. I visited my neuro last week. > The intern that saw me > for > >> >almost 40 minutes was trying to push sinemet > on me very hard. He > sounded > >> >worse than the medical sales rep. He insisted > that sinemet does not > cause > >> >dyskenesia! > >> > When I told him that Cox-2 inhibitor is > important for slowing the > >> >progression of PD, he didn't even know about > it. That is the kind of > >> >younger generation of doctors we are training! > After the chief had a > > talk > >> >with me, he said more or less the same thing. > However, at the end of > my > >> >visit, another intern came with a > questionnaire that she was studying. > > This > >> >was about the bad side effects caused by > sinamet and the patients > > aptitude > >> >with regard to taking sinemet. Both the > interns were contradicting > each > >> >other. > >> > To cut the long story short, I still was > not convinced enough to > take > >> >sinemet. I have determined to sty out of it as > long as I can manage. > >> >Therefore, I am still pursuing my multiprong > attack and hope I can > solve > > my > >> >problems. However, I must say that I have been > so far lucky to > > drastically > >> >slow down the progression of PD. I cannot > still say I have stopped the > >> >progression completely. > >> > Here are the things that I take everyday: > >> > > >> > Morning: > >> > 20 Min yoga and exercise* > >> > Dr. Paneri's medication* > >> > Synthroid (for hypothyroidism) > >> > Acetyl-l-carnitine** > >> > Folic acid for BP & nerves > >> > B12 > >> > Celebrex 100 mg* > >> > Brain essentials from Swanson's > nutritionals* > >> > Co E Q 10 for PD and heart * > >> > Green tea capsule > >> > MIX of blue berry and pomogranate > juice (for Pd and heart) > >> > bran cereal + almonds and walnuts > >> > > >> >Lunch time: > >> > Dr. Paneri's medication > >> > Acetyl-l-carnitine > >> > Atacand (for Blood Pressure) > >> > L-Carnosine** > >> > Co E Q10 > >> > Chondroitin/glucoasmine caps. > >> > Multivitamin > >> > Omega 3 oil or salmon oil on alternate > days or when I don't > consume > >> >salmon for a few days.. > >> > Brain essentials* > >> > Light lunch with fruits and juices > >> > > >> >Supper time: > >> > Dr. Paneri's medication > >> > Aceyl-l-carnitine > >> > Resveratrol** > >> > Brain essentials > >> > Turmeric caps 400 mg (for PD and > general health of nerves) > >> > Supper with salads, fish or chicken no > rice (low carb diet) > >> > > >> >before bed time: > >> > Atacand for BP. > >> > Listen to the Mind Aerobics tape** > >> > > >> >*THese items I find very useful. > >> >** These items have anti-aging, > anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidnt, > >> >neuroprotective and neuro regenerative > properties. These should be > > consumed > >> >by everybody for general health. > >> > > >> > In general, I avoid beef, rice, and white > bread, when ever > possible. > >> > I consume plenty of stuff like spinach and > stawberries (both great > > for > >> >PD). I make it a point to take a variety of > fruits, not necessarily > all > > at > >> >the same time. The idea is to consume > anti-inflammatory, > neuroprotective, > >> >neuro-regenerative, and antioxidants as much > as possible. > >> >WARNING: > >> > I AM TAKING A CALCULATED RISK IN > PRESCIBING MY OWN MEDICATION. > I > > DO > >> >THIS AFTER A THOROUGH LITERATURE SURVEY. > >> > I AM SHARING MY EXPERIENCE. I AM NOT > QUALIFIED TO GIVE ANY > ADVICE > > TO > >> >ANYBODY. WHAT WORKS FOR ME MAY NOT WORK FOR > EVERYBODY. DO CONSULT A > >> >QUALIFIED INDIVIDUL BEFORE YOU CHANGE ANYTHING > THAT YOU ARE DOING > > CURRENTLY. > >> > I was diagnosed in 1999. It too me two yearss > bfore I understood the > >> >seriousness of PD and he woes of allopathic > PD medications. I wish I > >> >started on my protocol much earlier. > >> > However, I must say that my friends, > including doctors, and my > two > >> >sons, who are doctors themselves, tell me that > I look a lot better > than I > >> >use to a couple of years ago. In fact, a > medical doctor friend of > mine > > was > >> >so impressed with my health improvement, he is > prescribing the same > > things > >> >to his patient, who did not respond well of > the conventional > medicines. > >> > I must add that I am painfully aware that > I am not out of the > woods > > yet. > >> >If everything else fails, I can always > starting on sinemet, which > would > > be > >> >my last option. I am still on constant look > out for alternative > > medications > >> >for my PD. > >> > > >> > I hope I have answered your questions. > >> > Wishing you all the best. > >> > Raj > >> >******************** > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Nick & Oanh" <[log in to unmask]> > >> >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> >Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:19 AM > >> >Subject: Curcumin inhibits neuronal cell death > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >>Hi Raj, > >> >>Been following your posts, and the novel way > you are combating PD. > >> >> > >> >>Would you be so kind and let us know what you > are taking now, and how > >> >>well it's working for you? > >> >> > >> >>Thanks in advance, > >> >>Nick > >> >> > >> >>Brightline wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>>Hi Everybody: > >> >>> I was aware that curcumin, an active > component of the Indian > spice & > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >condiment, turmeric, has some protective > action against PD and also > has > >> >certain cancer-killing effect. The > consumption of turmeric is thought > to > > be > >> >one of the reasons why PD is rare in Indian > population. However, I did > > not > >> >know the mechanism of its action. Recently, I > ran into some > interesting > >> >references that claim curcumin inhibits the > death of dopaminergic > neurons > > in > >> >the MPP+ Parkinson's disease model > (Neuropharmacology 2002, 42, > 1056-64) > > by > >> >inhibiting an enzyme that triggers cell death > or apoptosis. I also > found > >> >some references to the effect that Omega 3 > Fatty Acid (good for the > heart > >> >too) also acts in a similar fashion > >> > > >> > > >> >>> Therefore, I have added these two in my > arsenal against the > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >advacement of PD. This is for your info only. > >> > > >> > > >> >>> Please talk to your physician before you > change anything. > >> >>> Wish you all the best. > >> >>> Raj > >> >>>********* > >> >>> > >> > > >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> > > >> > > >> >>>In the body of the message put: signoff > parkinsn > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> > > >> > > >> >>In the body of the message put: signoff > parkinsn > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> >In the body of the message put: signoff > parkinsn > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> In the body of the message put: signoff > parkinsn > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn