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Wendy,
Rest assured that however strongly I may express my views, I mean no
personal offense, nor do I take any from anything said.  Actually, I
love to talk about philosophical issues.  Hard to say whether such
conversations are useful to the list, but to me your personal outlook
has everything to do with how you handle PD.

Participating in this list has taught me about the commonality among
us all, regardless of our personal beliefs, which cover quite a broad
range.

Enjoy the spring.
Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wenwolf" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: Moral certainty - delete if you don't want the mental
gymnastics! :)


> Rick:
> The point remains the same. Without illness and/or death, we
> overpopulate the earth and die anyway. Was disease created as a form
of
> population control? I don't know, I didn't create it, I am just
> guessing. I can think of no other good use for it. No, I don't like
it,
> no, I am not suggesting giving up on the thought of peace. I am just
> pointing out a fact. Death and misery is NOT a very poor method of
> population control - it works. It is just not a pleasant method.
Again,
> I am not PROMOTING it - please don't shoot me for stating what
appears
> to me to be a fact. :)
>
> Wendy
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  Do I see the need for war?  Think about this:
>
> What if all the heroism, sacrifice, determination, passion,
desparate
> action, massive investment, belief, cooperation and togetherness
that
> went into blowing things up and killing people all over the world
were
> instead put into things like educating people to improve their own
> lives, healing the sick, feeding the starving children, teaching
> people that there are opportuinities beyond what their lot in life
> seems to have prescribed for them?
>
>
> ...
> You mean I'm supposed to set aside any hope of peace, and set out to
> cull some unfortunates, so that there's more room for the next load
of
> unfortunates, and so on forever?  ...
>
> Was disease created as a form of population control?  Was the
smallpox
> and measles that decimated some native tribes justified as a means
of
> making more room for the rest of us?
>
> Causing death and misery is a very poor method of population
control,
> almost as bad as the rhythm method.
>
> ...
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wenwolf" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Moral certainty - delete if you don't want the mental
> gymnastics! :)
>
>
> > But I am! Don't you see the need for war, disease and illness? I
> don't
> > like it, but without it, we would have over run the earth and it's
> > resources long ago. What if we all lived forever? Think about it.
> >
> > Wendy
> >
>
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