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Rayilynlee: Trying to justify suffering on religious grounds may work for those who are not suffering, but trying to bring "religious logic" to the suffering is truly cruel. No religious control mumbo jumbo can justify an illogical situation when it is itself illogical. Faith is believing something you know is not true. I think Rayilynlee is to much the lady to tell you what she really thinks of this nonsence. Ned wrote: > Re the medieval view of suffering > I do think suffering can change you for the better, but enough is enough. > Everybody should have some and recover. > > My bouts with arterio-venous fistulas and ovarian cancer "ennobled" > me, but > not PD. It has destroyed any faith I ever had in a loving God. I > just fail > to understand the purpose. and especially children with cystic fibrosis. > What is the purpose of children having their lives destroyed or cut > short? I > don't think any religion can provide a satisfactory answer to that. > > The Pope,after all did have a "life" before PD, albeit a difficult one > losing his mother, brother and father as a child and teenager. Just > saw a > great and moving bio on him on PBS last night. > > I remember when I was in Poland in the early 1980's there were crosses of > flowers everywhere, the Catholic Church really was the vehicle of protest > against Communism. Also, there were photos of fetuses in the churches. > > The tragic history of Poland helps you understand this pope. > Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn