Rick: None taken. :) I respect you very much - your posts are well - thought out. I love philosophical discussions as well - that is probably why you and I have quite a few of them! However, I don't start them, I only enter into them when I see only one side being expressed, and I love to remind people that there are few absolutes, but many opinions. I like to think that is the value of these discussions to the list. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rick McGirr Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:30 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Moral certainty - delete if you don't want the mental gymnastics! :) Wendy, Rest assured that however strongly I may express my views, I mean no personal offense, nor do I take any from anything said. Actually, I love to talk about philosophical issues. Hard to say whether such conversations are useful to the list, but to me your personal outlook has everything to do with how you handle PD. Participating in this list has taught me about the commonality among us all, regardless of our personal beliefs, which cover quite a broad range. Enjoy the spring. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wenwolf" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:32 AM Subject: Re: Moral certainty - delete if you don't want the mental gymnastics! :) > Rick: > The point remains the same. Without illness and/or death, we > overpopulate the earth and die anyway. Was disease created as a form of > population control? I don't know, I didn't create it, I am just > guessing. I can think of no other good use for it. No, I don't like it, > no, I am not suggesting giving up on the thought of peace. I am just > pointing out a fact. Death and misery is NOT a very poor method of > population control - it works. It is just not a pleasant method. Again, > I am not PROMOTING it - please don't shoot me for stating what appears > to me to be a fact. :) > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > Do I see the need for war? Think about this: > > What if all the heroism, sacrifice, determination, passion, desparate > action, massive investment, belief, cooperation and togetherness that > went into blowing things up and killing people all over the world were > instead put into things like educating people to improve their own > lives, healing the sick, feeding the starving children, teaching > people that there are opportuinities beyond what their lot in life > seems to have prescribed for them? > > > ... > You mean I'm supposed to set aside any hope of peace, and set out to > cull some unfortunates, so that there's more room for the next load of > unfortunates, and so on forever? ... > > Was disease created as a form of population control? Was the smallpox > and measles that decimated some native tribes justified as a means of > making more room for the rest of us? > > Causing death and misery is a very poor method of population control, > almost as bad as the rhythm method. > > ... > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wenwolf" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: Moral certainty - delete if you don't want the mental > gymnastics! :) > > > > But I am! Don't you see the need for war, disease and illness? I > don't > > like it, but without it, we would have over run the earth and it's > > resources long ago. What if we all lived forever? Think about it. > > > > Wendy > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn