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I agree to stop this discussion if everyone else does, but it does have an upside - it helps to keep the brain active. :) Wendy -----Original Message----- Jeffrey - Guilty as called!!!. My husband, who was a minister with a doctorate, always said, "The only two times you can't win an argument is when it's about religion or politics". Mainly because we all have our own beliefs, and no one is going to change them. However, I will cease and desist if it make everyone feel any better. Best to you. Jo Ann ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn