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Bill: Having a familial type of PD my symptoms developed early. A tight torticollis at 3 or 4 and remembering the doctor behind me placing one hand on the back of my head and his other on my jaw and snapping my head to the side and back. It did the trick but the surprise and pain I have not forgotten at soon to be 63. While in Coast Guard boot camp, the drill instructor would notice that when preforming the right face command, I was doing something with my feet that they did not like and could not change but it did provided "entertainment" for the DI's. Had on going back problems in my 30's and 40's that DR's could not understand, the pile of x-rays looked OK. Then in my mid 50's noticed that wile walking the left foot pointed straight ahead and the right leg was externally rotated. About 5 years ago, I told the neurologist that was treating me for my back problems for some 3 years to look at all of my symptoms, like thumb tremors, drooling and that an aunt been diagnosed at 85 with PD. I knew before the* Sinemet *test I had PD. Other physical findings with my type of familial PD are short in stature and a somewhat foreshortened foot with a high arch. *Maripax* has controlled my symptoms for over 5 years. My 95 year old father is now showing some signs of PD, he is doing fine lives alone and cares for himself. While PWP represent only 1% of the population 90% of us have been misdiagnosed and missed treated. Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn