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Ray, it is truly a small world. I don't know how long ago you lived in Murrieta but if it was more than 10-15 years ago you would not believe the change. It is now in close competition with Temecula for population and upscale housing. There is so much growth going on. It's crazy. One day there is bare ground and a week later people are moving into a house that appears to have been thrown together. And Paying 400-450K for the privilege! Where do you live in Arizona. My husband and I go there occasionally to visit friends. Maybe we could find a way to have an eye to eye visit. I wish you could travel, too. I'm trying to get as much in as I can while I can. I try to take my daughter with me when I can (my husband still works full time). She's really good at saving me from myself when I get in over my head. We went to Italy this summer and I did fine except when we went down under one of the cathedrals in Rome to view the catacombs. I had been walking a lot that day and it was very hot. My sinemet wore off quicker than I expected and I had left my medicine on the tour bus. The catacombs twisted and turned around like a maze. The guide said they went for a total of 7 miles. My daughter Susan told our tour guide that I needed my medicine and I needed it right now. He told her he didn't know how to get out and would have no idea how to get back in and find us. By that time I couldn't walk, talk or think clearly. She told the guide essentially to step aside that she would figure out a way to handle it herself. Somehow she got the two of us out of there, sat me down in the shade, went to the bus to get my meds, found a gelato stand that sold cold drinks, got me one and got the medicine in me and half an hour later I was fine. Some of the people in our tour thought I had had a panic attack or became claustrophobic. It didn't seem worth the effort to explain it to all of them. I just wanted the episode to be over. But I have been faithful to my vow that PD may eventually win with me, but I'm not going down easily! Claudia ----- Original Message ----- From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Claudia/viva vegas > Claudia, I lived in Murrieta for 7 years before moving to AZ and yes it is > hot in the Temecula/Murrieta/Lake Ellsinore area. Maybe that is why I'm > still surviving here. However, in CA it does cool off at night. enjoy > Las > Vegas. Wish I was able to travel. Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DAVID LEWIN" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD/Claudia > > >>I think you'll be safe In Iowa considering you are now living on a >>shifting >> volcanic plate. Lex Luther may have been right about buying beach front >> property in the desert. As for Doom & Gloom, you'll be glad to know >> that >> scientist don't think the super volcano magna underneath Yellowstone Park >> is >> going to blow up anytime soon (that's in geological time) blanketing the >> continent with sulphuric ash. On the negative side, the artic glaciers >> are >> melting at an increasingly progressive rate, which means that the >> Atlantic >> conveyor belt my soon come to a halt and precipitate another Ice Age >> across >> North America and Europe, so Las Vegas might be just the place. Good >> luck. >> >>>From: "Claudia J. Goldberg" <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD/Claudia >>>Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:23:02 -0700 >>> >>>I leave the factoring to the mathematicians. I focus my efforts on being >>>in >>>air conditioned buildings whenever possible! :-) >>> >>>I live in Lake Elsinore Ca. This has been a very weird weather year. >>>First >>>tons of rain, now the relentless heat which will in turn kill off all the >>>greenery brought on by the rain and we will have massive fires. Not >>>trying >>>to be a Dr. Doom, I'm just reporting the facts. >>> >>>I'm going to a little town in Iowa in a couple of weeks to visit my >>>favorite >>>uncle. He told me that one morning last week the temp was 46 deg! I'm >>>going straight to Las Vegas from his house so packing for the trip should >>>be >>>tons of fun, >>> >>>Claudia >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "DAVID LEWIN" <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 6:37 AM >>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD/Claudia >>> >>> >>>>Of course you then have to factor in the humidity. >>>> >>>>>From: "Claudia J. Goldberg" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>>>><[log in to unmask]> >>>>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD/Claudia >>>>>Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:53:12 -0700 >>>>> >>>>>I think any temperature that is 90+ degrees is just too hot! :-) >>>>> >>>>>Claudia >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "DAVID LEWIN" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 3:50 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD/Claudia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>And I thought 94 was bad! >>>>>> >>>>>>>From: "Claudia J. Goldberg" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>>>>>><[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD/Claudia >>>>>>>Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:06:31 -0700 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ray, thank you for your generous spirit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I haven't been on this list for very long so I don't know the >>>>>>>historical >>>>>>>threads of most of the posters. But I see your posts regularly and >>>>>>>they >>>>>>>are >>>>>>>always interesting and knowledgable. I really appreciate the info >>>>>>>you >>>>>>>provide all of us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It seems the subject of chemicals in the environment being a >>>>>>>potential >>>>>>>cause >>>>>>>of PD comes up more often and in respected and credible sources. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I live in Southern California (15+ yrs) but spent all of my childhood >>>>>>>and >>>>>>>part of my early adulthood in a farming community in Kansas. Between >>>>>>>our >>>>>>>house and the closest neighbor there was a huge vegetable garden (it >>>>>>>was >>>>>>>commercial and the owner was what we called a "truck farmer" meaning >>>>>>>he >>>>>>>took >>>>>>>the harvested vegetables to an open air market and sold them from the >>>>>>>back >>>>>>>of his truck). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>All that was before the time they learned that DDT was harmful to >>>>>>>one's >>>>>>>health. I can recall many, many times when they dusted the crops >>>>>>>with >>>>>>>DDT >>>>>>>so heavily it left a white powder on the plants and the wind carried >>>>>>>much >>>>>>>of >>>>>>>it to our yard. If I think about it now I can still recall the >>>>>>>awful >>>>>>>smell >>>>>>>and taste it had when I breathed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Now, of course, I wonder if it had an impact on my PD. I am 60 now >>>>>>>and >>>>>>>was >>>>>>>diagnosed when I was 54. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ironically the researchers are also following the possibility that >>>>>>>environmental chemicals may be the cause of Sarcoidosis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If it proves true, then I must have gotten a "double whamee". No one >>>>>>>else >>>>>>>in my immediate family have been diagnosed with either disease. But >>>>>>>my >>>>>>>father had a serious lung condition (not related to smoking) and when >>>>>>>he >>>>>>>passed away the death certificate simply said the cause of death was >>>>>>>chronic >>>>>>>obstructive pulmonary disease. My oldest brother (2 yrs younger than >>>>>>>me) >>>>>>>had serious asthma and other lung problems all his life. At age 56 >>>>>>>he >>>>>>>died >>>>>>>suddenly of a massive heart attack. The dr. thought the strain of >>>>>>>asthma >>>>>>>and related breathing disorders may have weakened his heart along >>>>>>>with >>>>>>>his >>>>>>>lungs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have a sister a couple of years older than me who has no lung >>>>>>>problems >>>>>>>but >>>>>>>she was a very "girly girl" when she was a child and spent most of >>>>>>>her >>>>>>>time >>>>>>>inside the house with my mother and was not exposed to the DDT to the >>>>>>>extent >>>>>>>my brother, father and I were. I have two brothers who are much >>>>>>>younger >>>>>>>than me and both have had minor asthmatic bouts but by the time they >>>>>>>were >>>>>>>born DDT had been banned. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sort of makes you think, doesn't it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>In addition to the Sinemet I take Requip. I don't know if it is one >>>>>>>of >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>agonists that have caused PDers to gamble. But I may try that out as >>>>>>>an >>>>>>>excuse to my husband for my desire to trek to Las Vegas every few >>>>>>>months. >>>>>>>:-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hope all have a wonderful day. It is supposed to hit triple digits >>>>>>>here >>>>>>>AGAIN! It was 118 one day last week. I don't want to hear about how >>>>>>>it's >>>>>>>not so bad because it's a "dry heat"..118 deg. is 118 deg.! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Claudia >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:33 PM >>>>>>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD/Claudia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Claudia, I for one am interested in your condition. You deserve >>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>complain as much as you like. It is just another reminder that PD is >>>>>>>>not >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>only disease one can get. I know when I survived cancer I thought I >>>>>>>>was >>>>>>>>'home free" Ha! Ray, wondering when the next shoe will drop. >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Claudia J. Goldberg" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:16 AM >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>For what it is worth, I once had a neuro-surgeon tell me hat M. Ali >>>>>>>>>did >>>>>>>>>not >>>>>>>>>have PD, but rather he had a disease called Shy Drager's Disease >>>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>ir >>>>>>>>>was >>>>>>>>>indeed caused by too many blows to the head. Although I got the >>>>>>>>>impression >>>>>>>>>that other's can get it without having had all the blows. In fact, >>>>>>>>>for >>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>brief time they thought I had it. One of the diagnostic symptoms >>>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>>an >>>>>>>>>extreme drop in blood pressure, especially when first standing up. >>>>>>>>>I >>>>>>>>>do >>>>>>>>>have PD but the symptoms of Shy Drager turned out to be caused by >>>>>>>>>another >>>>>>>>>disease I had but had not yet been diagnosed. It was sarcoidosis. >>>>>>>>>It's >>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>fairly rare auto immune disease that nearly always impacts the >>>>>>>>>lungs >>>>>>>>>then >>>>>>>>>can go to any organ in the body. For some they have one episode >>>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>then >>>>>>>>>it >>>>>>>>>never returns. For others it is either intermitent or chronic. >>>>>>>>>The >>>>>>>>>sarcoidosis was attacking my bone marrow and filling the space with >>>>>>>>>small >>>>>>>>>tumors (granulomas) thus leaving no room for me to produce new red >>>>>>>>>blood >>>>>>>>>cells. That caused the extreme low BP and also serious anemia >>>>>>>>>requiring >>>>>>>>>blood transfusions. It is always hard for me to know if any new >>>>>>>>>symptom >>>>>>>>>I >>>>>>>>>have is PD related or the sarcoid rearing it's ugly head. The >>>>>>>>>sarcoid >>>>>>>>>also >>>>>>>>>precludes me from participating in clinical trials. They don't >>>>>>>>>want >>>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>>if >>>>>>>>>you have more than one disease. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I'm sure this is much more info on sarcoidosis that any of you are >>>>>>>>>interested in, but it's one of those sleepless nights and I allowed >>>>>>>>>myself >>>>>>>>>to blabber on about a subject not related to PD. Sorry, I'll try >>>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>>have >>>>>>>>>more self control in the future. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I wish you all peace of mind, the serenity to accept your condition >>>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>ability to laugh at the arrows life shoots at us. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>In the laugh area, a while back there was a country singer who had >>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>song >>>>>>>>>called "What Really Turns Me On is the Shake". I always thought >>>>>>>>>that >>>>>>>>>should >>>>>>>>>be the PD Anthem! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Claudia >>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>From: "M.Schild" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:31 PM >>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Ozzy Osbourne & PD >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Also, what about Muhammad Ali's too many blows >>>>>>>>>>>to the head? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I should think. M. 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