Ray:
I have followed the Bush bashing mail and had the same reaction. There are
no substantive arguments on their side just vague complaints about
censorship. One could also count the PD related posts on their side and
they are few. Rather than their complaining, I would like to see a well
reasoned description of what Bush is doing. And I don't mean a rehash of
what they are saying. Example: Somebody said we are fighting terrorists in
Iraq. That may be true today, but it certainly was not the premise on which
this preemptive war was started. There were no terrorists there then.
Saddam would not stand for the competition. Iraq has become a fertile
ground for them. Indeed Iraq as a single country may well cease to exist.
K. F.
rayilynlee
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Teresa,
I would like an example of how I have displayed hatred for anyone on this
list. Let's hear some ARGUMENTS from you about why a cell is a person, why
a preemptive war is OK. I would love to debate these issues with anyone
instead of your just claiming I am hateful.
I have been through the fire in life and the classroom and am not afraid of
you. I am not going away. Your problem with me is that you don't seem
to
have any arguments.
Just saw a great movie, "Warm Springs" about FDR (who as a Republican I
used
to oppose) and how he dealt with polio. When I cried several times, my dog
did too. We never saw FDR's greatest battle, I highly recommend it.
Ray
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From: "Theresa Rehtom" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Bush bashing
> There is no tolerance here for anyone who disagrees with Ray. That is
> what
> appears to be the problem. There are no values tolerated in discussion
> unless they align with Ray's.
>
> Yes there is an occasional posting allowed that disagrees but if the
> poster
> begins to make statements counter to Ray's beliefs they are soon attacked
> by
> the same group of Bush bashers under the guise of "freedom of speech"
and
> "we
> are just searching for a cure"
>
> No Rick there is no tolerance displayed here only hatred. The
suggestion
> of
> filtering does not really work. Why should a person join a list hoping
> for
> Parkinsons information and support and then have to filter out hatred
and
> blatantly political rantings. Why should a person have to turn on
> filters to
> feel welcome.
>
> Yes these rantings make her feel good. I'm glad for that. I am unhappy
> that she has driven so many people away from this list. Fine caring
> people were
> driven away and even Doctors who were supportive of all and provided
> balance
> when medical advice was flowing.
>
> I guess we don't need the rejects doctors anyway. There is rarely any
> Parkinson's related discussions going on here. There are only the bones
> of a once
> useful list. They only support a few bits of dying flesh now. What a
> shame. It takes a whole body to be useful and function. All the
organs.
> All the
> muscle. Not just the bones. Just like Parkinson's limits the
usefulness
> of
> the body by killing parts off the brain. This list has killed off and
> rejected valuable contributors... The only thing left are the feeble
> shakes,
> weakness, delusions, drooling, paranoia and the inability provide
support
> for
> others.
>
> RIP one time useful list...
>
> Just my observations. Please feel free to disagree. I won't hold it
> against you or decree that your opinions are not worthy posting. They
> are all
> worthy. It is just a shame what has happened to this list.
>
> With Love and Respect for all
>
> Theresa
>
>
>
>
>
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