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KF, I am still awaiting arguments and examples of how I have personally verbally assaulted anyone on the List. either in personal emails or on the List. If I have I certainly apologize, but would like to know what I said. A far as I know Bush is not a list member, but the "most important person in the world" (Daily Show) Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "KF Etzold" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: Re: Arguments please, not whining > Ray: > > I have followed the Bush bashing mail and had the same reaction. There are > no substantive arguments on their side just vague complaints about > censorship. One could also count the PD related posts on their side and > they are few. Rather than their complaining, I would like to see a well > reasoned description of what Bush is doing. And I don't mean a rehash of > what they are saying. Example: Somebody said we are fighting terrorists in > Iraq. That may be true today, but it certainly was not the premise on > which > this preemptive war was started. There were no terrorists there then. > Saddam would not stand for the competition. Iraq has become a fertile > ground for them. Indeed Iraq as a single country may well cease to exist. > > K. F. > > > > rayilynlee > <[log in to unmask] > ET> To > Sent by: [log in to unmask] > "Parkinson's cc > Information > Exchange Network" Subject > <PARKINSN@listser Arguments please, not whining > v.utoronto.ca> > > > 09/25/2005 02:56 > PM > > > Please respond to > "Parkinson's > Information > Exchange Network" > > > > > > > Teresa, > > I would like an example of how I have displayed hatred for anyone on this > list. Let's hear some ARGUMENTS from you about why a cell is a person, > why > a preemptive war is OK. I would love to debate these issues with anyone > instead of your just claiming I am hateful. > > I have been through the fire in life and the classroom and am not afraid > of > you. I am not going away. Your problem with me is that you don't seem > to > have any arguments. > > Just saw a great movie, "Warm Springs" about FDR (who as a Republican I > used > to oppose) and how he dealt with polio. When I cried several times, my > dog > did too. We never saw FDR's greatest battle, I highly recommend it. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Theresa Rehtom" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: Bush bashing > > >> There is no tolerance here for anyone who disagrees with Ray. That is >> what >> appears to be the problem. There are no values tolerated in discussion >> unless they align with Ray's. >> >> Yes there is an occasional posting allowed that disagrees but if the >> poster >> begins to make statements counter to Ray's beliefs they are soon attacked >> by >> the same group of Bush bashers under the guise of "freedom of speech" > and >> "we >> are just searching for a cure" >> >> No Rick there is no tolerance displayed here only hatred. The > suggestion >> of >> filtering does not really work. Why should a person join a list hoping >> for >> Parkinsons information and support and then have to filter out hatred > and >> blatantly political rantings. Why should a person have to turn on >> filters to >> feel welcome. >> >> Yes these rantings make her feel good. I'm glad for that. I am unhappy >> that she has driven so many people away from this list. Fine caring >> people were >> driven away and even Doctors who were supportive of all and provided >> balance >> when medical advice was flowing. >> >> I guess we don't need the rejects doctors anyway. There is rarely any >> Parkinson's related discussions going on here. There are only the bones >> of a once >> useful list. They only support a few bits of dying flesh now. What a >> shame. It takes a whole body to be useful and function. All the > organs. >> All the >> muscle. Not just the bones. Just like Parkinson's limits the > usefulness >> of >> the body by killing parts off the brain. This list has killed off and >> rejected valuable contributors... The only thing left are the feeble >> shakes, >> weakness, delusions, drooling, paranoia and the inability provide > support >> for >> others. >> >> RIP one time useful list... >> >> Just my observations. Please feel free to disagree. I won't hold it >> against you or decree that your opinions are not worthy posting. They >> are all >> worthy. It is just a shame what has happened to this list. >> >> With Love and Respect for all >> >> Theresa >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn