Hi all I often tell students that the 5 paragraph essay, which most of them know well and some depend on, is like a bicycle when what they really need is a Mac truck. It is kind of fun and useful as well to explore the 5 paragrapher as an ideological vehicle. For one thing--what's all this about putting your conclusion ( which is what a thesis really is) at the front of your argument? ESL students in particular really like having this wonderous and quite bizarre move pointed out to them. I also have great fun sometimes exploring with them the strategies that we all use when we don't have 3 supporting points (invent a third point and stick it in the middle and hope nobody notices) or when we have more than three points. I also show them through exploring published academic papers what strategies do transfer from the 5 paragrapher. Topic sentences is one strategy. Of course, not every paragraph has one--but they are pretty useful. But we also investigate 5 paragraph break downs as well--lots of published stuff that just doesn't follow the model because it can't--not and get the intellectual work of the article accomplished. Situations where that Mac truck (a wider range of strategies) is needed But the 5 paragrapher is great little bike when you have to write that most "school" of all "school" genres --- entrance tests or now the GRE s which also require essays. Too bad the world isn't as ordered, constrained and limited as the 5 paragrapher would lead us to expect. ButThere are some strategies associated with the 5 paragraph form that are useful but they have to be teased out and identified. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-