My students all certainly know the 5 pe, the hamburger paragraph, and all those other trivial ways that teachers have explained writing. My students are also mostly savvy enough to understand that all such structures don't work -- however, I'm continually surprised how often their writing still falls into that kind of pattern even when it is not effective for their purpose. Rob Irish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie MacKinnon" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Composition and Canada > For what it's worth neither I nor any kids I know have ever seen or done > a "five-paragraph essay." The only time I've ever heard of such a beast > has been at writing conferences, where they're sometimes mentioned, as > one does Lucifer, to keep them / it at bay. > > Jamie > > -----Original Message----- > From: CASLL/Inkshed [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Russ > Hunt > Sent: October 26, 2005 2:44 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Composition and Canada > > > I'm interested to read that this was the case. When I came to > this other planet, it seemed to me I had _escaped_ the 5pe and > the constraints of writing texts. > > But of course that was a _long_ time ago. > > -- Russ > >> I couldn't understand why the five-paragraph essay style was >> de rigeur, and why curricula which grew out of textbook >> choices (rather than actual writing practice) held such >> immense sway. >> >> Marc, many of us have trouble understanding the same thing. > St. Thomas University > http://www.StThomasU.ca/~hunt/ > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > > For the list archives and information about the organization, > its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to > http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > > For the list archives and information about the organization, > its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to > http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-