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Thank you for this. It is the first time I have been told that I am worth more in God's eyes than the stuff the clinics toss in the trash. Enjoy Fall! Rick McGirr Email: [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nina P. Brown" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:08 AM Subject: Re: personhood > With regard to the question of personhood, I would like to share > with those who may not have seen > it, a copy of the conclusion my husband, Joe, and I have come to > after years of thought and study > regarding the question. > _____ > > THE GIFT OF EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS > > Two separate issues involved in the question of embryonic stem cell > research beg for answers. > > The first is scientific - can it be done? Is there potential in the > research? The second issue is > moral, ethical or theological - should it be done? > > The same questions being asked today were raised with in vitro > fertilization and have historically > been raised with numerous scientific processes that are currently > accepted as routine, such as organ > transplantation. > > An overwhelming majority of mainstream scientists agree that the new > frontier of embryonic stem cell > research has great scientific potential for life enhancing medical > treatments. > > This brings us to the moral, ethical and theological dilemma which > begs the question: When does life > begin? > > As the centuries have gone by, God has revealed more and more of His > wonders to us as we have become > ready to receive them. He has given us the ability, coupled with the > responsibility, to recognize > His gifts as He presents them. > > Scientists now recognize that, in the early stages of development of > the embryo (which is not a > fetus) there is a 10-14 day period before cells begin to > differentiate into specific organs, such as > brain, heart and neural tube. The embryonic stem cells that > scientists use for research typically > consist of 150-200 five-day-old microscopically small, > undifferentiated (identical) cells in a Petri > dish. Until these cells differentiate, they have the potential to > become one child, twins or > triplets. > The common belief is that each of us has our own unique soul. We > assume twins don't share the same > soul. Although a single cell can divide and eventually become twins > at this undifferentiated stage, > at no stage would a soul divide. > > Therefore, these five-day-old undifferentiated cells, so small that > they fit inside the eye of a > needle, are not human beings, but human cells that are God's gift > for improving the quality of our > lives. > > Throughout the history of mankind God has continued to reveal > ever-increasing life-enhancing > knowledge, from herbs to the microscope, surgery, pharmaceuticals > and nuclear medicine. Our belief > is that now God has chosen to reveal His gift of undifferentiated > cells as a brief window of > opportunity to provide a means to sustain and prolong life and has > given us the gift of > differentiating cells to create life. For both gifts, we thank God. > > > > Nina > -----Original Message----- > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > rayilynlee > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:09 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: personhood > > Paula, if you believe personhood begins at implantation you should > have not > have any trouble with nuclear transfer or embryonic stem cell > research. > Your position would be like that of Mormon Sen. Orrin Hatch. The > cells and > research we are talking about takes place in a petri dish, not a > womb. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Nixon" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:52 PM > Subject: Re: CA lawsuit for embryo Mary Scott Doe > > >> Amanda, >> Isn't a person that is unconscious, perhaps under anesthesia a >> living >> being? How about a 6 month fetus, that could live if it were born. >> The >> prenatal age of viability keeps getting pushed back farther and >> farther. >> Maybe it will be 5 months. Isn't it still a person? If it is born >> full >> term, it requires constant attention to keep it alive. Isn't it >> still a >> person? That frozen lump, it's not a dog or a monkey, it's human. >> Given >> food and oxygen it will be a person. I personally think person >> hood >> begins at implantation, but this does give room for ethical >> studies. It's >> not cut and dried and not necessarily the way we want it to be. >> Paula >> >> Amanda Phillips <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> hang on - person = conscious individual = living being, which not = >> small >> frozen lump with no functions indicating the above ? >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn