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Scott, I remember some years ago there was a research study done on the power of prayer and heart patients in San Francisco. Those who had been prayed for did better than those who had not and no one knew they were being prayed for. My guess would be that the pray-ers were believers, but I don't know for sure. Of course, there are charlatans who claim faith healings. There was also the case of a young boy who had some awful kind of cancer who survived after getting thousands of get well cards. They had to stop people from sending them. Non-traditional religions would say it is the power of intention or consciousness at work. Let me know if you ever hear of anyone with PD being cured by prayer. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Antes" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: Re: AGNOSTICS & ATHEISTS/RAY > Hi Ray. > To tie this in with our list, much research has been done of the power of > prayer in healing, but I've never seen any research done on the power of > non-religious people to heal. I'd like to see that research if it's > available. After all, I know some darned healthy atheists! I agree with > you wholeheartedly that atheists (using the term loosely to encompass all > non-religious people) are some of the most terrific people I know. As an > aside, I wish I could find the poll results I saw a few years back, in > which the majority of people polled would rather have a non-religious > person for a neighbor than a religious one. The main reason that the > majority gave for their decision was that a non-religious person has no > agenda to push, and lends a helping hand because he or she is a good > person, period. I remember showing that poll to my students, but I've > since misplaced it. Anyway, I appreciated your posting. Scott > > At 09:12 AM 10/14/2005, rayilynlee wrote: >>IF SOMEONE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD HE OR SHE IS AN ATHEIST. >> >>IF SOMEONE ISN'T CONVINCED OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD, BUT THINKS WE MAY NOT >>BE >>EQUIPPED TO UNDERSTAND OR ISN'T CONVINCED GOD DOESN'T EXIST, HE OR SHE IS >>AN >>AGNOSTIC. >> >>I HAVE TRIED THE BIBLE AND I DON'T LIKE IT. ALSO HAVE BEEN TO MANY >>CHURCHES >>AND HAVE TAUGHT RELIGIOUS HISTORY AS IT HAS BEEN SUCH A POWERFUL FORCE IN >>WORLD HISTORY. >> >>AM BECOMING LESS RELIGIOUS THE OLDER I GET. NOBODY, NOT THE SCHOOLS NOR >>MY >>ATHEIST MOTHER EVER TRIED TO INDOCTRINATE ME. MY OPINIONS ARE DERIVED >>FROM >>THE THOUSANDS OF BOOKS I HAVE READ, MY OWN AND THE LIFE EXPERIENCES OF >>OTHERS. >> >>I AM ALSO TIRED OF ATHEISTS BEING TREATED LIKE SCUM. THEY ARE SOME OF THE >>SMARTEST, MOST CARING PEOPLE I KNOW. >>RAY > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn