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Greg,it is hard to keep positive. Just read only one article suggesting they attack IVF clinics. I hope all he obstructionists get to the end of the cures line when they come. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Wasson" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: stem cells w/out destroying embryo > Ray, > > Right on the money. I guess that they will have to get in the frozen > embryo line behind the 400,000 plus excess IVF embryos waiting for > adoption as "snowflake" babies. Shouldn't be too long - I understand 89 > so-called snowflakes have already been adopted. That only leavees 399,911 > and then the lab-created "breakthrough" babies will have their turn. It's > enough to make your head spin around on your shoulders - no, that's just > my dyskinesia. > > Meanwhile Huang Woo-Suk is rounding third in the Stem Cell World Series. > Go Huang, go! > > Greg Wasson > > rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > But what will they do with the left over embryos??? > Challenge to Bush in new stem cell breakthrough > > Ian Sample, science correspondent in Montreal > Monday October 17, 2005 > The Guardian > > Scientists have perfected a way of making embryonic stem cells without > destroying the embryos from which they derive, a breakthrough that will > challenge George Bush's opposition to the research. > > The new research, carried out by Robert Lanza at the Massachusetts-based > stem cell company Advanced Cell Technology, shows embryonic stem (ES) > cells can be created without resorting to the creation of embryos > themselves - a process known as therapeutic cloning, which was legalised > in Britain in 2001. > In work carried out in mice, the researchers let fertilised eggs divide > for two to three days until they formed a ball of eight cells. They then > removed one of the cells and cultured it in a dish. They found it grew > into a mass of cells, some of which turned into ES cells. The remainder of > the cells were reimplanted into surrogate mothers and allowed to develop > normally. In 48 attempts, foetuses developed in 29 mothers, a success rate > comparable to that seen in surrogate fertility clinics, the researchers > claim. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > "Willy Loman never made a lot of money. His name was never in the paper. > He's not the finest character that ever lived. But he's a human being, and > a terrible thing is happening to him. So attention must be > paid...Attention, attention must finally be paid to such a person." - > Arthur Miller - Death of a Salesman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn