 |
 |
Rick: As I remember it, they were small blue cans, half the size of a can of shaving cream. I too set off the cans and left the house for three weeks on vacation. My mistake was that when I returned alone, having left my family at our vacation home for seven weeks, I did not wash everything. The fleas were gone, and I incorrectly assumed the toxins had dissipated. (I did put on the attic fan!) I did this operation twice during successive family vacations from which I returned home to work. Two of my children developed mild neurological problems. David >From: Rick McGirr <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc >Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:19:00 -0400 > >David, > >I wouldn't be able to tell you what brand we used, but we were >unsuccessful in the first attempt, so we did it again. This was back >in 1977 or 8. It wasn't a tall can, the size of a whipped cream can. >It was about half as tall. You were supposed to get it going and then >leave immediately, which we did. I remember the directions said it >was ok to re-enter after 4 hours, and I think we did go in a bit >quicker than that the second time. I should contact my old roomies to >find out if any of them have problems. > >Took my symptoms another 20 years to show up, but they came on early, >when I was about 47. > >Enjoy Fall! >Rick McGirr >Email: [log in to unmask] > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "DAVID LEWIN" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:05 AM >Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc > > >>Rick, >>What product did you use when you flea bombed your band house? I >>can trace >>my PD onset back to incidents when I flea bombed my house 2X. I >>believe I >>used D-Con. David >> >> >>>From: Rick McGirr <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc >>>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:00:06 -0400 >>> >>>I think both viewpoints below are correct. To think of my mom, who >>>still has her wits about her at 90, bounding across a savannah, >>>well, >>>it would make a good cartoon. Modern life allows the survival of >>>folks, even when they have trouble getting around, like Mom. And I >>>think my mom's input and her example have kept the family alive and >>>thriving. These days natural selection favors those animals with >>>access to health care. >>> >>>I think they might discover that PD comes from a bad gene, that the >>>bad gene was due to something in the parents' environment somewhere, >>>between the original chicken/egg and now, and that the disease is >>>triggered by unnatural things in the offspring's environment. >>> >>>My mom has essential tremor, my son has Tourette's, and I'm sitting >>>pretty in the middle with PD. Is there a single gene that we share? >>>What could my mom or her parents have been exposed to? You never >>>know. Abraham Lincoln took mercury pills for his melancholia. I >>>was >>>exposed to the residue of pesticide immediately after we flea-bombed >>>our band house long ago, multiple times. Three, I think. >>> >>>Enjoy Fall! >>>Rick McGirr >>>Email: [log in to unmask] >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:40 AM >>>Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc >>> >>> >>>>. >>>>Joe wrote: >>>>I'm not discounting Natural Selection or the idea that the older >>>>you >>>>are the >>>>more likely you will be sick but I don't think Nature acts to >>>>deliberately >>>>weed out the old in order to make room for offspring, indeed one >>>>theory is >>>>that having older members of a tribe around, especially >>>>grandmothers, leads >>>>to higher survival rates for the children >>>>------------- >>>>On the contrary, the well understood process of aging in humans >>>>points to >>>>the actual breaking down of the body. Anyone who has watched a >>>>person reach >>>>their 80s (and beyond) will notice that weight is lost, the >>>>appetite >>>>decreases, movement slows, bones become brittle and the immune >>>>system fails. >>>>Slowly, nature insures that the elderly will be eliminated. >>>> >>>>While it is true that grandmothers were essential for the success >>>>of >>>>the >>>>human race (watched the kids while mom and dad sought food for the >>>>tribe), >>>>please keep in mind that those grandmothers were probably in their >>>>late >>>>thirties and forties. It was extremely rare for grandma to reach >>>>80 >>>>way >>>>back when moving quickly through the savanna was essential in order >>>>not to >>>>be eaten. >>>> >>>>PD is certainly another way that the body breaks down. The big >>>>question >>>>is....why and how does the disease occur? >>>>--------- >>>>God bless >>>>Mary Ann (CG Jamie 66/26 with PD) >>>> >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >mailto:[log in to unmask] >In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn