David, I wouldn't be able to tell you what brand we used, but we were unsuccessful in the first attempt, so we did it again. This was back in 1977 or 8. It wasn't a tall can, the size of a whipped cream can. It was about half as tall. You were supposed to get it going and then leave immediately, which we did. I remember the directions said it was ok to re-enter after 4 hours, and I think we did go in a bit quicker than that the second time. I should contact my old roomies to find out if any of them have problems. Took my symptoms another 20 years to show up, but they came on early, when I was about 47. Enjoy Fall! Rick McGirr Email: [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID LEWIN" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc > Rick, > What product did you use when you flea bombed your band house? I > can trace > my PD onset back to incidents when I flea bombed my house 2X. I > believe I > used D-Con. David > > >>From: Rick McGirr <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc >>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:00:06 -0400 >> >>I think both viewpoints below are correct. To think of my mom, who >>still has her wits about her at 90, bounding across a savannah, >>well, >>it would make a good cartoon. Modern life allows the survival of >>folks, even when they have trouble getting around, like Mom. And I >>think my mom's input and her example have kept the family alive and >>thriving. These days natural selection favors those animals with >>access to health care. >> >>I think they might discover that PD comes from a bad gene, that the >>bad gene was due to something in the parents' environment somewhere, >>between the original chicken/egg and now, and that the disease is >>triggered by unnatural things in the offspring's environment. >> >>My mom has essential tremor, my son has Tourette's, and I'm sitting >>pretty in the middle with PD. Is there a single gene that we share? >>What could my mom or her parents have been exposed to? You never >>know. Abraham Lincoln took mercury pills for his melancholia. I >>was >>exposed to the residue of pesticide immediately after we flea-bombed >>our band house long ago, multiple times. Three, I think. >> >>Enjoy Fall! >>Rick McGirr >>Email: [log in to unmask] >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <[log in to unmask]> >>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:40 AM >>Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc >> >> >>>. >>>Joe wrote: >>>I'm not discounting Natural Selection or the idea that the older >>>you >>>are the >>>more likely you will be sick but I don't think Nature acts to >>>deliberately >>>weed out the old in order to make room for offspring, indeed one >>>theory is >>>that having older members of a tribe around, especially >>>grandmothers, leads >>>to higher survival rates for the children >>>------------- >>>On the contrary, the well understood process of aging in humans >>>points to >>>the actual breaking down of the body. Anyone who has watched a >>>person reach >>>their 80s (and beyond) will notice that weight is lost, the >>>appetite >>>decreases, movement slows, bones become brittle and the immune >>>system fails. >>>Slowly, nature insures that the elderly will be eliminated. >>> >>>While it is true that grandmothers were essential for the success >>>of >>>the >>>human race (watched the kids while mom and dad sought food for the >>>tribe), >>>please keep in mind that those grandmothers were probably in their >>>late >>>thirties and forties. It was extremely rare for grandma to reach >>>80 >>>way >>>back when moving quickly through the savanna was essential in order >>>not to >>>be eaten. >>> >>>PD is certainly another way that the body breaks down. The big >>>question >>>is....why and how does the disease occur? >>>--------- >>>God bless >>>Mary Ann (CG Jamie 66/26 with PD) >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn