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My sentiments exactly, Greyling, Ray
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From: "Gentry, Greyling" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: Rabbit/human chimeras - shock! shock!


Bio-ethics my ass. To date we've killed over 300,000 Iraqis, most of
them innocent civilians. These were living, breathing, thinking, feeling
humans. These were men, women, children, infants -- not Petri dishes
containing indistinct match head-sized clumps of cells. As I type,
thousands of our victims lie suffering and dying, some of them our own
kids for God's sake. Where's the Christian right's outrage over
America's ongoing policy of first strike mass murder?

I don't want to hear one more word about the supposed unholiness of
embryonic stem cell research from Republicans and/or pseudo-Christians.
Everyone who does not actively oppose the illegal, immoral U.S. killing
machine has blood on his hands. Someone should try fusing some human
cells into all the bloodthirsty politicians and holy rollers.

Please: check your own ethics first. If you're pro-war and pro-death
penalty, you've got a long way to go before you have the moral right to
oppose ESCR, doctor-assisted suicide or abortion.


~ Greyling


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From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:54 AM
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Subject: Rabbit/human chimeras - shock! shock!

News

      Fury over embyros
      Number: 5803     Date: January
      By Nick Weinberg

      The chairman of a bio-ethics think-tank has condemned proposals
for the creation of hybrid embryos - by fusing human cells with rabbit
eggs -as amounting to " British leadership in the depressing journey
towards the brave new world." Nigel Cameron, chairman of the Centre for
Bioethics and Public Policy (CBPP), has expressed deep concern over
plans by British scientists to create embryos by combining rabbit eggs
with human cells.

      Scientists, if granted consent, aim to fuse human cells with
rabbit eggs in a bid to further stem cell research into incurable
diseases and providing them with a plentiful supply of eggs to
experiment with. Dr Cameron said: "It's no surprise that the hottest
news today is that British scientists want to avoid the need for women's
eggs at all by using rabbits. "But this would neatly take us out of the
frying pan and into the fire. Creating human-rabbit hybrids for our
embryo experiments is worse." Claire Foster, Church of England Policy
Adviser on Science, Medicine, Technology and Environmental Issues, said:
"The Church is opposed to the creation of rabbit-human hybrid cloned
embryos."

      It follows the advice of the Church of Scotland's Society,
Religion and Technology Project that "such a technique would create an
'embryo' so deformed that it could not be viable and inherently denies
its potential to develop." She added: "As the SRTP points out, 'the
admixture of human and animal at a basic cellular and developmental
level of the embryo breaches the distinction between human and animal in
a far more fundamental way than, for example, a sheep expressing a
single human gene in its milk, or having a functioning pig kidney inside
a human body'." The scientists, led by Professor Chris Shaw, a
neurologist and expert in motor neurone disease at King's College,
London, and Professor Ian Wilmot, creator of Dolly the sheep, claim
using rabbit eggs is necessary because of the practical and ethical
difficulty of obtaining women's eggs.

      This difficulty has been further exacerbated by a recent cloning
scandal involving a scientist in south Korea - Dr Hwang Woo-suk. Dr
Hwang made a landmark claim in 2004 that he had created a line of stem
cells from cloned human embryos. An investigation into his research
found that his claims and data were false. The chairman of the CBPP
said: "The unmasking of the Korean cloning fiasco represents a climax
for stem cell hype. "The fact that he [Dr Hwang] lied about his results,
and was believed by the science establishment, demonstrates the power of
wishful thinking."

      A US Christian group expressed its shock and horror last month
after one of the US leading research institutes, the Salk Institute in
California, created a man-mouse chimera. Scientists at the Salk
Institute created the man-mouse chimeras by injecting the brains of mice
with human embryonic stem cells obtained by killing live human embryos.





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