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Rick, I completely agree with you but I think we have to accept the contents of the 'charter' exist and that if one 'steps out of line', one is likely to be removed. I feel my emails regarding a database are the target of JC's email; the fact he hasn't replied to my one seeking clarification would suggest this is so. We can discuss the dbase outside of this group; my address is [log in to unmask] - any one else that's interested can also email me. I have no intention to just sit and wait for the end; God gave me a brain and I intend to use it. The Doctor who replied to JC's email with the words, 'that's the boy John', has waved another red rag.... Hopefully I'll hear from you. Marco ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn