Sorry, I was way behind in my e-mail and did not get around to reacting to the thread on chemicals and PD. As some might recall, I posted a long-ish message on pesticides and PDs on October 30. The bottom line: there are three pesticides that have substantial evidence of causing PD: paraquat, rotenone, and maneb. There is also substantial evidence from epidemiological studies that something about rural living is associated with higher rates of PD, but there is nothing that convincingly shows that it is exposure to pesticides that is the cause, rather than any number of other possibilities. Because I was concentrating on pesticides, I did not mention two other chemicals known to cause Parkinson's Disease: MPTP (an impurity in street drugs) and manganese. But that's it: there are no other chemicals for which there is reliable evidence that they are a cause of PD. It may well turn out that there are others, but we have no evidence what they are. In the current thread, folks are writing in to say: I (or my spouse, parent, etc.) was exposed to X, and I'm convinced that that's what caused my/his/her PD. Candidates for X that have been mentioned include: Nerve agents Fertilizer Bug spray Radiation (type unspecified) Working in a gas station Any chemicals capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier DDT Dyestuffs Anesthetics Antidepressant Lindane Artificial sweetener This long and varied list has one thing in common: they all have an extensive scientific literature on their effects on human health, none of which demonstrates that they cause PD to any substantial degree. It could turn out in the future, of course, that some of them may be significant causes of PD, but there is no evidence for that. The people who tell themselves "It must have been X" have committed one of the classical errors in logic, so old that there is a Latin phrase for it: post hoc, ergo propter hoc ("after this, therefore because of this"). There is only one way we can have reliable knowledge of causation, through the scientific method, which requires replicated studies with a reasonably large and unbiased exposed group and control group (not a complete description, but you get the idea). If you observe one individual develop a disease after a particular exposure, you can formulate a hypothesis that that may be the cause, but without well-designed studies confirming it, it will remain just a hypothesis. So, except for those who have a family history of PD or who have been exposed to one of the handful of chemicals listed earlier, none of us have any basis for believing that this or that is the cause of our PD or even a significant contributor to development of the disease. Of course, that does not stop us (myself included) from trying to answer the question, why did this happen to me? There is a psychological need to try and answer this question, but we need to recognize that we do not have a scientific basis for the answers we develop for ourselves. We need to resist the temptation to base public policy on these subjective grapplings. I will try to comment on the database issue in the next few weeks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn