Interestingly, a similar discussion about positioning has been occuring on the Engineering Communication Listserv. Below is an excerpt from Linda Driskill's post that started it. I think it is to the point you are seeking response to. For my own part, I made note of Cathy Scrhyer's valuable reclamation of the idea of "techne" as incorporating both "skill at" and "savvy about" -- sorry Cathy, I know that's a dumbing down, but a quick e-dialogue makes it difficult to capture the richness. Somehow, many of our colleagues remain blind to the latter, yet we must position ourselves in that intellectual space. I noticed myself trying to move in precisely the ways Linda describes below in a meeting with an Engineering department chair just this week. I think I was somewhat successful. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Driskill" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Terminology we use to discuss engineering communication > Because of the history of the word "skills," many faculty apply a > cognitive definition to what we teach that severely limits their > conception of what we do. Unlike other skills that can be sharpened by > repetition alone, such as putting a ball through a hoop or swatting a fly > on the first blow, communication's success seldom depends primarily on > scribal fluency, spelling, or pronunciation. Audience analysis and > adaptation, selection and organization of information, persona, using the > conventions of a discourse community and its genres, recognizing cultural > values--those are the types of knowledge that affect success, or in the > equally ambiguous phrase, communication's effectiveness. > > I think it's time we stopped talking about training students in > communication skills and emphasized the knowledge of communication > practices and strategies in professional situations. > > Engineering communication studies the ways that engineers in the various > branches and industries formulate problems in language and interact with > others to solve them. We have theories and methods that help us create new > knowledge and prepare students for professional responsibilities (and to > critique practices). > > I've noticed that some deans and administrators align their vocabulary of > training/ learning and non-tenure/tenure as well. > > I invite your comments. > > Linda driskill -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-