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marco de michiel wrote: > Ned, > > you wrote.... > > It is my understanding that the new web site is for as you call > them "the clearly disturbed" > > Ned > > > I don't wish to prolong the debate on Escr but I find your words > tasteless > and offensive; and quite childish. > Everyone in this group voices their thoughts, opinions annd arguments > intelligently; and occasionally some communications become emotive and > perhaps subjective because the writer has become so absorbed by the > subject > they sound off out of frustration. what better place than here! The only > time a member should be asked to cease their dialogue is if they > blatantly > make false statements; especially if it involves a person, > irrespective of > their position. First a warning, followed by permanent removal, if they > disregard the warning. The last thing we should be doing is reducing > numbers > but quite the opposite. We should be growing it through effective PR, to > bring in all those with PD that are currently facing it alone [and their > family]. If they don't have the means to fund a PC & modem we, those who > can, should look into establishing a recycling equipment list, when we > replace a system. If we each paid in $1.00/week I think we could soon > have a > significant amount. This money could be used for special projects, e.g. > database, and PR campaigns; media coverage. This group consists of very > intelligent people, who call a spade a spade and who are not prepared > to sit > and do nothing and just wait for the inevitable. > > As for the lady who said something like , '' ... if it's only a blob in a > dish, it isn't human, so what's the problem...". The problem is it's > alive > [egg+sperm] albeit invitro, it's the first part of the human form; > with it's > DNA code that will, if allowed to live become a human being. This has > made > me think abount IVF Clinics and Sperm banks as having crossed the line > from > health care to significant businesses; just like Plastic Surgeory. My > IVF > question. For couples having difficulty conceiving, the solution(I > think is > usually IVF) But if they can takes eggs and sperm and reimplant > several eggs > in > womb and a live birth takes; after a costly and lengthy exercise; and at > times difficult and > emotional for the woman - it's not exactly the same as making love - why > can't they (?) conceive, etc. naturally. I > think the IVF $dollars have stopped them looking. Births too have > become a > business because more are being delivered > by C-section-certainly in the UK. > > I am a catholic and I have my beliefs but these aside I am concerned > about > ESCR - and any form of bio tech - because of what > it might lead to; and who would control the business because that's what > it'll become, a business. > > I mean no offence. > > Marco > > Marco: Leighton up it's satire, even if you don't get it. I assure you that some of the 500 + members of this list who never post are laughing. I hope you are not against the palliative power of laughter, but then you could always make a rule............. Clearly Disturbed I have PD Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn