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Nick, If memory serves me, Pres. Reagan signed legislation prohibiting the use of fetal tissue research if taken (with consent) from aborted fetuses. Ditto Bush 1 Dolores Nick & Oanh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Ray, I remember going to a Parkie symposium 7-8 years ago, where Dr. Levesque showed movies of a couple of his patients that had received brain injections of fetal brain cells. The patients had almost a complete recovery from pd. Ethical problems and the inability to get enough fresh fetal cells, 5-10 fetuses required for one patient, stopped him from continuing. What fetal cell experiment had disasterous results? Nick Drozdowski caregiver for Oanh, 15 years pd > > > rayilynlee wrote: > >> Mary Ann, >> >> the "neurologist" of whom you speak was a neurosurgeon, not an MDS >> movement >> disorder specialist. >> >> As for embryonic stem cell implants for PD I didn't think there were >> any >> yet, only animal studies. A fetal cell experiment had disastrous >> results. >> Dennis Turner's PD has returned after Dr. Levesque used his own adult >> brain >> cells, so I agree, cell replacement may not necessarily be the >> answer. But >> hESCR is needed according to most scientists to learn the >> etiology(causes) >> of disease, surely a precursor to treatment. of PD and other >> diseases. All >> kinds of SCR, knowledge and honesty are needed in this fight. Ray >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Ann Ryan" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:33 AM >> Subject: Re: Why? Mary Ann >> >> >>> If >>> >>>> whole swaths of scientific research are now decreed "out of bounds" as >>>> discussion items, what will this group have left to talk about? >>> >>> >>> >>> Scientific research is *not* out of bounds. Discussions about people's >>> right to disagree about stem cell research based on moral or ethical >>> issues >>> has, in the past, only proven divisive. A neurologist left this list >>> (even >>> though he provided wonderful insights into the treatment and >>> mechanism of >>> PD) specifically because of this kind of discussion. We all need >>> to be >>> united in this fight - not divided. >>> >>>> >>>> It's now widely accepted that stem cells hold the key to cures for >>>> Parkinson's and many other diseases and conditions. >>> >>> >>> >>> Stem cell implants in PWP were discontinued because of the resulting >>> violent >>> dyskinesia that occurred. It is altogether possible that stem cells >>> are >>> not >>> the answer to PD. >>> --------- >>> God bless >>> Mary Ann (CG Jamie 66/26 with PD) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/266 - Release Date: >>> 2/21/2006 >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn