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Hi Ray. I enjoyed the PBS special last night on 1421. Hope you did, too. If you saw it, you'll have noticed that Menzies has no solid evidence for his theories, but that's not to say the Chinese didn't accomplish more than the rest of the world combined (at the time and for awhile afterwards) with regards to world exploration by sea. Amazon should have Temple's book. I think that's where I got my copy, but it was a few years back. If they don't have it, try abebooks.com. They will have almost any book in or out of print. Scott (And yes, this whole Chinese business is relevant to the PD world, for anyone who's wondering. You'll see.) At 11:12 AM 4/2/2006, you wrote: >Scott, > >I was confused about the date of The Great Withdrawal, so thanks for >clarifying. Thought death of Zhu Di in 1424 was a little early, and 3 >years seemed a short time for visiting all those places (like Antarctica), >but things seem to be happening fast now in our country with one ruler >waging war on science. Yes, this is controversial and unproven as presented >on PBS. It's an interesting book though. I think Gavin Menzies' assertion >was based on the fact that China was the only country with a fleet capable >of the circumnavigation of the earth necessary to produce those pre-Columbus >maps. How much of the fleet really returned to China? Can I get Temple's >book at Amazon.com? Thanks, Ray >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott E. Antes" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:32 AM >Subject: Re: Time to learn Mandarin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn